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myLot reputation of 98/100. rowantree (467)   ranked 674 out of 8,027 in reading1 year ago

WARNING:
Don't read this if you haven't read the book yet or if you don't want to know about the story.
I've finished the last Harry Potter book. I have to admit, there were parts that I skimmed while the thoughts "blah blah blah" went through my head. JK Rowling put in an awful lot of 'filler'. A little more than halfway through and it was annoying me. I didn't understand the reasoning for it.
Get to the end and I understood why. I don't believe this book was written as a book. This book was written in a way so that it would easily translate to the big screen, wasn't it?Which is to say, in my own opinion, that we've been cheated.
I also feel that the last bit written was written hastily. I don't believe much thought or effort was put into it.**SPOILER ALERT**I do, however, believe that the last bit was written - thrown in - so that the readers would have their happily ever after ending.
Which left me feeling extremely cheated. It has left me feeling that the real story has gone untold. The story in JK Rowling's mind, the real story, went unwritten (or maybe she wrote it and stashed it).
I dunno. Maybe this is the real story. I just can't shake the feeling though, that it isn't.
I understand why the series had to end. I'm sad though, that it did have to end because JK Rowling is an amazing woman. She has broken so many records. She has accomplished an incredible amount of things. I am hoping that her ending the series doesn't end her accomplishments. I am hoping that she still has a lot more magick up her sleeve.
If not, it was good while it lasted...

 
 
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1. myLot reputation of 96/100. zeloguy (1973)   ranked 166 out of 8,027 in reading   1 year ago

Since the fifth book, J.K. Rowling has had problems with the story of Harry Potter. The book was originally written as a kid's book (although now it is much more popular with adults) and when the issues of dating etc... came up it was difficult for her to write.

When the last book came around, you are absolutely right... the book had to be just as big as all the rest of the books and she was on a TIMELINE to get the book written.

I don't think it was necessary written for the big screen but it is for darn sure that Rowling doesn't have the passion for writing as she did with the first book.


myLot reputation of 71/100. mkirby624 (1414)   ranked 1,451 out of 8,027 in reading  1 year ago

The reason dating is included in the books is because Harry is growing up. He's not an 11 year old anymore, and the kids who started reading Harry when the first book was released AREN'T kids anymore. She's allowing Harry to grow up and allowing the readers to grow up with Harry.


myLot reputation of 96/100. zeloguy (1973)   ranked 166 out of 8,027 in reading  1 year ago

I understand that but read any interview with Rowling about the subject and you will see how she struggled with that.

The book is not in the Libraries in the Teens section it is in the Kids section. I think she did a good job skirting the issue (no pun intended). What happened to the Asian girl Harry was so fond of in book..... 4?

The only thing that is left is the I like her but I'll pretend I hate her and vice verca with Ron and Hermione and we all know what happens with that 'relationship'.


myLot reputation of 98/100. rowantree (467)   ranked 674 out of 8,027 in reading  1 year ago

Is it possible since Ms. Rowling wrote the book for her young daughter, that as her daughter grew, Ms. Rowling herself outgrew the story?

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2. myLot reputation of 99/100. twilight021 (1623)   ranked 212 out of 8,027 in reading   1 year ago

***this response contains spoilers********

I must admit, I'm with you Rowan. I did feel a bit cheated, I thought the middle had a ton of filler....the moving fron tent to tent stuff...even Ron leaving (I would have thought he would have outgrown that since he was acting much more mature previously). While I wasn't that crazy about that stuff, I can forgive it. I have to say though that I found the epilogue a bit unforgivable. In my opinion I felt it read like 12 year old fan fic. I've even been entertaining the thught that she let a 12 year old write it since I felt it just seemed so out of character. I'm really not sure what went wrong there, but I find your theory that it was written to become a movie a very thought provoking one. I also felt that it left so many unanswered questions...what happened to Lune? How is George (and the rest of the family) coping with the loss of Fred. 19 years was a long time, and I just thoguht it was a very trite, and cliche ending...which is sad because in general I think this story was amazingly well written.


myLot reputation of 98/100. rowantree (467)   ranked 674 out of 8,027 in reading  1 year ago

Hiya! I am glad to hear I'm not the only person who didn't forget poor Fred. 19 years later, the kids are named after everyone else*but* Fred. I thought that was strange. And where was Grandma and Grandpa Weasley at? It's just a shame she had to end it the way she did. Interesting about letting a 12 yr old write that last part...


myLot reputation of 96/100. zeloguy (1973)   ranked 166 out of 8,027 in reading  1 year ago

This is a quote from J.K. Rowling herself in 2003 (Thank God I can paste now)

"I do look forward to a post-Harry era in my life, because some of the things that go along with this are not as much fun," she said. "But at the same time, I dread leaving Harry. ... I worked on it so hard for so long ... then it will be over and I think it's going to leave a massive gap."


myLot reputation of 95/100. dfollin (1421)   ranked 572 out of 8,027 in reading  1 year ago

I did not feel cheated.It leaves it open for anopther book,even thou she says that she is not writting another book.We'll see,look at singers,like Garth Brooks,who said he is retiring and then he comes out with a new CD or goes on tour.Retire's again,same story back again.No,I did not feel the "Nineteen Years" chapter was complete enough,but I did see that it does leave it open for another book.

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3. myLot reputation of 86/100. craftcatcher (1937)   ranked 248 out of 8,027 in reading   1 year ago

I don't really feel cheated. There was a lot of "blah, blah, blah" in the first few chapters but I expect that from any book. There's always background, explanation, history that needs to be hashed out to get into the characters heads. I think that is unavoidable though sometimes long winded. I did get a little bored on and off until about page 400.. after that it was non-stop action and I spent hours on the edge of my seat.

I found much of it incredibly sad, so much death and destruction. I found myself in tears in about 5 different spots in this one. That's more than all the other books combined.

But I think you are correct, this one will translate to film the best of any of them. Much of it can be condensed into short scenes without losing much of the story if they handle it right. I hope they do!

As far as the ending, everyone was worried that she wouldn't actually "finish" the story and leave everyone hanging. But I think it was ultimately how most people wanted the story to end, predictable but happy. There's just enough of an opening to start a whole other series of stories or just let it be. Personally I think she'll let it be and move on to other projects.

I hope she doesn't retire, I love the way she writes. But I wouldn't blame her if she did. She's got young kids and more money than she could ever spend. I would love to see if she can come up with another series to equal the excitement and anticipation that the HP series did. I have to admit that I caught the bug myself and got very excited with every book and movie release, and it won't be over til the last movie comes out.

My ultimate wish would be for her to release a new series of books just as the last movie is release. That gives her at least 2 or 3 yrs. I guess we'll have to wait and see.....:D


myLot reputation of 98/100. rowantree (467)   ranked 674 out of 8,027 in reading  1 year ago

Ms. Rowling has said in interviews over and over again, that she wants to be done with the story so I don't believe she'd take it back up after finishing it off. I would love to see her start a new series myself, one that has the same effect (or even more powerful) than the Harry Potter one. Now that would be magic!


myLot reputation of 95/100. dfollin (1421)   ranked 572 out of 8,027 in reading  1 year ago

craftcatcher,I do have to agree with you,there were places in the book where there was alot of "blah,blah,blah" and it would get boring.And yes it is necessary and sometimes long winded,but so is my pastor,lol.I did cry several times during the book,mnore than usual.It was kind of like reading,"Ole' Yellar",lol.And,I said to myself when people kept telling me this is the last book.That it wasn't.Ms.Rowling left it open to write more book's which I hope she does.In "Nineteen Years Later",it was not complete and left me with lots of questions.I was thing,"But,what happened to......." But,before that chapter even started I thought,wonder how the people acted towards Harry now.Was everyone over nice to him,did Mr and Mrs Weasley blame him for Fred's death.How did people act towards Draco and the other Malfoy's.I have a ton of questions in my head and probably so do alot more people and I think that Ms Rowling knows that.She left it open like that on purpose,so if she ever get's the itch to write again,she can.Then there are the adventures of the next generation too.

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4. myLot reputation of 95/100. lecanis (7207)   ranked 14 out of 8,027 in reading   1 year ago

I was actually really happy with the book. I liked how so many of the old characters got their time to shine, and I was so excited about what she did with Snape! The only thing that annoyed me at all was that "Nineteen years later" bit... it just seemed unnecessary to me, but then I always hate when authors do that at the ends of books/series.

Other than that, I was really happy with how the last book turned out, though I cried a couple of times when characters died. That's just because I'm a big softy like that.


myLot reputation of 98/100. rowantree (467)   ranked 674 out of 8,027 in reading  1 year ago

I love what she did with Snape as well. And I also agree with you about the "ninteen years later" - absolutely hated it.

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5. spiritualghost (37)   ranked 5,238 out of 8,027 in reading   1 year ago

I dont think it was written just for the movies..but I did find it a bit disappointing. Maybe, this is somehow related to the fact that I read so much of fan fiction and stuff related to harry Potter on the net before its release, that when it finally came out I just had too many expectations. There was in fact a fan fiction called "the 7th horcrux" which was quite good, and i thought it was better in some parts than this one (but it had no mention of the deathly hallows though...and too musy too!)


myLot reputation of 98/100. rowantree (467)   ranked 674 out of 8,027 in reading  1 year ago

I don't read the offspring books but I don't think this had any effect here. That ending was just too poorly written.

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6. myLot reputation of 92/100. sedel1027 (12056)   ranked 259 out of 8,027 in reading   1 year ago

I was quite happy with the book. I felt this book should have been written instead of books 5 & 6 which I did not enjoy at all. I did think it was odd she picked up 19 years later, but it was a nice end, the series end almost exactly as it began, coming full circle.


myLot reputation of 71/100. mkirby624 (1414)   ranked 1,451 out of 8,027 in reading  1 year ago

I've rarely heard people disliking 5 and 6. 5 is my favorite book


myLot reputation of 98/100. natalie1981 (1390)   ranked 283 out of 8,027 in reading  1 year ago

Ditto. I hated 5 and 6, specially 5. I guess its just because I'm a sucker for happy endings that's why I liked this book better. I liked the thought of adding 19 years later but I didn't like how it was written. It's sort of rushed and there wasn't really that much interaction between Harry, Ginny, Ron and Hermione. I wish she added more details or focused on the main characters a littler more than on the kids.


myLot reputation of 98/100. rowantree (467)   ranked 674 out of 8,027 in reading  1 year ago

I like all of the books. I felt the "19 years later" bit was very poorly written. When I came to that I thought oh, how perfect, I can just imagine the fade in during the movie. blech.


myLot reputation of 95/100. dfollin (1421)   ranked 572 out of 8,027 in reading  1 year ago

rowantree,I have to agree,I loved all the books and I believe "Nineteen Years Later" was written in a rush,it looks like.She wanted to make it look like the end and she thought of adding that at the last minute to try and make all us think it was the end.Like in the last chapter it says that no one was sitting according to house table anymore.Then in "Nineteen Years Later" the children were to be sorted.Ok,that's quite a gap,nineteen years,what happened during that time?

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7. lucyem (96)   ranked 4,646 out of 8,027 in reading   1 year ago

I have to say, I read a Deathly Hallows fanfic and thought it was better than Rowling's book! And I don't say that lightly. Until the 6th book, I thought she put her all into them. But after Dumbledore died, I knew the next one wouldn't be that great. And it wasn't. That 91 years later crap? What was up with that? Id did sound like she rushed to write that, and the part with Snape's memories was very hard to follow. I also think she should have put in more clues to how Snape would finally turn out, because the way she wrote this was just way too disjointed for me. When Ron left, it didn't make sense. Ron had been leading at one point, and his leaving seemed too childish. And the tent thing? Come on! They're wizards! They could have done better than tents! So yes, I feel cheated by this book.

I read somewhere on Rowling's site that there will be no more HP books, ever. I think that's why she killed off so many characters. I think she's afraid others will write about them, but killing them off won't keep people form writing about them. See, there are fanfics already, and there will continue to be.

I, too, think this was written for the movies, and that makes me sad and angry. But it's all over now, and I think she even had trouble taking it this far.


myLot reputation of 98/100. rowantree (467)   ranked 674 out of 8,027 in reading  1 year ago

ROFLMAO! So! I'm not the only one who wanted to know 'WTF?' when it came to the tents! They're shivering and cold in the snow! I kept wondering why they didn't just go to a warm beach climate, after all, they were just brainstorming, it's not like they needed to be in the same country. I didn't agree with Ron leaving either. When Dumbledore died, I thought this was a step in the right direction for Harry to finally grow up and do things on his own. Instead he just relied heavily upon Ron & Hermione and anyone else who happened by. I agree with you, and I think it's possible Ms. Rowling never intended for the story to go this far. I liked how Snape turned out but you're right, dumping it on us all at once was pretty strange.


myLot reputation of 95/100. dfollin (1421)   ranked 572 out of 8,027 in reading  1 year ago

lucyem,I really liked book 7.I thought it was more exciting and emotional then the other's.It was 19 years not 91.No Ms. Rowling did not expect it to go this far,but it didAnd as far as the tent things goes,I think,this may not be totally correct,but I believe that if they kept coming in and out of the country they would be noticed.

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8. myLot reputation of 82/100. herbalicious (369)   ranked 1,952 out of 8,027 in reading   1 year ago

I don't know, I enjoyed the book. I think that the middle was not so much a filler as it was just revealing a bit more of the past (and the conflict Dumbledore once faced, about Hallows vs. Horcruxes).

I would agree with you, and say that the end was kind of abrupt. And Voldemort didn't go out with a bang like I wished he would, I was hoping for ancient magic to kick-in again. But I do like mostly everything else. Overall, I think it was a pretty decent book! ..maybe I need to read more? lol


myLot reputation of 98/100. rowantree (467)   ranked 674 out of 8,027 in reading  1 year ago

I liked the book, but I can't help but feel cheated. I don't think the story was meant to end the way it did. I honestly feel that there's a different ending and that she didn't publish that one because of the uproar over Harry's possible death.

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9. myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (8771)   ranked 859 out of 8,027 in reading   1 year ago

Well no...I haven't finished the book yet, but there been so many spoilers about that I've read, yet it doesn't make a difference to me as I still plan to read it anyway--as for the ending...I remember some years ago, there was an interview with JK Rowling that I had watched...in it, and this might explain the less than satisfactory ending, was that years and years ago, when she had first started to write the HP books, she already had the final chapter completely written out--now I don't know if she had revised the ending as she did write this final book, maybe not...maybe that's just plain how she envisioned it and wanted it to end.


myLot reputation of 98/100. rowantree (467)   ranked 674 out of 8,027 in reading  1 year ago

Now that you mention it, Pyewacket, I remember reading about her saying that. My gut feeling though is that she didn't publish that final chapter and gave us what we got (nice way of putting it, isn't it?) instead.:)


myLot reputation of 98/100. pyewacket (8771)   ranked 859 out of 8,027 in reading  1 year ago

You mention here that the "style" of the final chapter was well more immature in a way...that could explain it...If you remember the first book, while good, it was more on a childlike level...so if she wrote the final chapter the same time as her first book it could explain a lot---her writing style did improve with the later books--a lot different and not necessarily geared to just children as she knew by then children weren't the only ones reading the books

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10. myLot reputation of 86/100. Galena (3149)   ranked 36 out of 8,027 in reading   1 year ago

I really enjoyed it, but in Storytelling tradition, I genuinely think that Harry needed to die.

that was the way the story should go, as I see it. and then something (in a very annoying weirdy afterlife chapter) was cobbled together to allow him not to.

it just didn't sit right with the story.


myLot reputation of 71/100. mkirby624 (1414)   ranked 1,451 out of 8,027 in reading  1 year ago

I was thinking Harry might die as well, but seeing as how kids grew up with this, I think they would see it as a horrible ending. All this hard work Harry put into saving the wizarding world, and he ends up dying. I think the kid-fan base would see it as unfair, and then start turning their back on the morals they learned from the book (like standing up for what you believe in) because they would think everytime you did that, you'd get killed anyway, so what's the point? I think that the good guy needed to prevail in the end.


myLot reputation of 98/100. rowantree (467)   ranked 674 out of 8,027 in reading  1 year ago

I agree with you. I didn't want Harry to die, but as you wrote, in storytelling tradition, Harry needed to die. I know kids wouldn't have liked that particular ending, but better to have a great story with a strong ending than a great story with a weak ending.

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