Are they telling us Santa is a druggie?

If all that other malarky hadn't been hovering around, plus the part about Sesame Street being bad for kids - you know, Cookie Monster promotes obesity, Oscar the Grouch promotes the will to live in a garbage can and if a kid is seen on a Brownstone home - that encourages "slumming", I wouldn't even have given this a second thought. Might have grinned at the thought, "yeah, good ol' fellow does work rather hard and could use a little help" but would have not tought any more about it, but this recent uproar to defimate Santa and say he is causing problems to the kids, when it is just the parents looking for an excuse to not take repsonsiblity to teach their kids properly, it just sticks in my craw that they are doing this. That is why I compare it to things they do allow to get people to see how stupid it is and leave Santa and the kids alone. It's kind of like "do as I say, not as I do" and the kids are the ones that pay the price! Okay, off my soap box!

Of course not lie to the kids. But let them have their imaginations to create with. Don't stifel their imaginations. You can let them "belive" in Santa and other things, it is all in how you present them and how much YOU make of it. Preach it and they will retain. Suggest it and they will consider. Chat about it and they will play along too! My 7 yo old GD belives in Santa for her own self,although I believe this is her last year of that belief, but also belives that he is only for kids. Santa will bring her a stocking but she gets to bring stockings to mommy and Nanny. She gets one gift from santa, the rest is from family. But I firmly believe that kids should be allowed to be kids - this world has them growig up far to fast and missing so much of their childhood and being a kid.

Thanks for the br. And to a point, I agree with you. Kids should be allowed to be kids but not when it sacrifices their well being. I was lied to a lot as a kid and not just about those fictional characters. I had a lot of grief growing up and it has made me not want to tell lies like that to my kids. Allowing them to believe that fictional characters are real is just as good as lying to them in my opinion. I will tell my kids about santa but I'll be sure to tell them that he is fictional, not real. That's just my view but to each their own. I am not one to tell other people how to do things. That's just me.

Kurtbiewald - thank you SO MUCH for this laugh this morning! I sure needed to start the day with one! I hadn't thought about the sneaking into houses part or the red suit. Wow - these goof balls really missed the biggest parts didn't they? They really need to raise their children properly instead of expecting other to do it and then complain about it!

I certainly hope it will stay the same! But with everyone suing everyone so as not to have to accept responsibility, I don't know. I watched the Radio City Music hall Rockets Christmas program on TV last night and they had a Santa in one of the skits and sure enough, he said Ha Ha Ha instead of Ho Ho Ho.

Just hope it does some good somehow in helping stop these idiots that want to destroy the fun in life and at our kids expense!

Its a drug...period. Not as serious as others, but a drug none the less. ANd the point is that they are picking Santa apart for no reason - Ha Ha Ha instead of Ho Ho Ho because there is another slang meaning to the word "ho"? He is chubby so he is promoting obesity in kids? He smokes a pipe so he is promotinng smoking? Come on, surely you see that. And since Advil is a common household item, kids can find it in any drawer in the bathroom or mom's purse and first they see mom take it and now Santa takes it, guess it is something they can take too! SO they take a bunch of the pills, it makes them horribly sick and to the hospital to get their bellies pumped. Second point is...I was making the point of... see how stupid it is to trash something for no intelligent reason and expect people to go along with it? It goes both ways, you know.

Well I see you have certainly put a lot of thought into this. No I don't see all these scenarios that you mentioned. Sorry.

I guess your right, those things could happen. I'd hope that kids that are at an age to know wether santa is real or fictional would not be influenced to do things suching as smoking or taking some Advil more than the recommended dose. If they are that young, medicine cabinets shouldn't be open for them to get this sort of thing without the parents knowledge. Oh and the obesity, um don't you think that parents should be controlling that, not the image of Santa Clause. I would hope that I was tendig to my child's meals and not themselves.

Bay xx

You're missing the whole point of this. People are saying that santa being plumb is encouraging kids to be overweight! They are saying the santa saying ho Ho HO is not appropriate for kids to say as that ho word is derogatory to woman and they don't want kids to hear it. They want to stop santa from smoking a pipe, cause they say it encourages kids to do the same. The whole thing is so stupid, it just a way for people to not have to take repsonsibility for teaching their kids properly and put if off on someone/thing else. I'd be willing to be no kid ever said, "I want to be fat like Santa". But instead of taking the parentak responsibility and teaching their kids how to eat healthy and take care of themselves, they prefer to not be a good parent and just blame their kids weight problem on someone/something else and that gets them off the hook. Why else would they make such an ordeal over an imaginary figure?

Ok well now I'm just really confused on wether you AGREE with this or you DISAGREE with this. The initial post sounded lik you agree'd with those scenarios, now this last one seem's you don't.

So I'm still going with my original opinion and saying that it's still silly and I don't think any of those things will be a result of an Advil ad with Santa Clause in it, or any other ad with Santa doing any of the other things you mentioned. I'm sure when children get to the age to know that this is NOT a real person, and have access or ability to do any of the things you mentioned will know the difference between doing it and not doing it and why. That's my point...maybe your not getting mine.

Bay xx

My point: LEAVE SANTA ALONE> Leave kids to their own imagination. Let kids have their childhood fantasies. Don't tear apart the little happiness'ss kids have these days. Don't use Santa to be the "excuse" for bad parenting. My comments were stated in a stupid silly fashion in comparison to the whole issue being is so stupid and silly in the first place

Well okay, you don't have to get all in a huff about it. I read it, I actually read it twice because I couldn't tell what point you were making. Then I read it again when you replied back to me. So, I'm sorry I wasn't able to understand your intentions.

Bay xx

Nothing to be sorry about. No huff here. Just a conversation between 2 MyLot minds!

Fair enough, I was hoping you saw it like that.:)

Bay xx

From what I have heard, that was a fun era!