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myLot reputation of 87/100. dodoguy (767)   ranked 874 out of 8,605 in cooking9 months ago

Weeeellll, fellow cooking addicts,

I had a previous post asking if there is any acceptable culinary term to use in place of chicken bre*sts, because myLot (apparently) has a censorship thing about the use of that particular term.

But (seemingly) no-one was game to touch it. Which mean either that the censorship trolls have everyone terrified, or there just isn't any other term in the English language that can be used in its place.

As an example, if I'm talking turkey legs, I can also say "drumsticks" or "hindquarters", and you'd probably know what I'm talking about.

I don't know of any alternatives for "chicken wings", unless "chicken arm" is acceptable.

But things like chicken liver and so forth could be described in other terms if need be.

That other thing from the chicken's chest, though, doesn't strike me as having any workable alternative name - unless "chicken chest" is it! Maybe "chicken pecs" - might catch on if it got any use.

Anyway, there should be enough people here on myLot that maybe even could suggest non-English terms for poultry parts, in order to widen the common vernacular. I'd appreciate any suggestions, because it irks me that such a common, acceptable and well-intentioned culinary term is subject to the rigors of mechanical censorship.

 
 
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Winter08 (334) response was accepted on 3/24/2008.
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1. myLot reputation of 90/100. Winter08 (334)   ranked 3,078 out of 8,605 in cooking   9 months ago

I'm not sure of the correct spelling for this word that I use in place of your topic of discussion word ... but, whenever I order take out chicken from KFC (Do you have Kentucky Fried Chicken restaurants in Australia?), I always order the white meat.

KFC has 2 sections of chicken that they seem to consider white meat: the shoulder joint and upper "chest" area and your "word" area. Asking for just "white meat" gets me the shoulder joint area. Not what I want. Asking for the "keal", I get what I want ... your "word".

The "keal" of a chicken always struck me as ... odd. But if I use keal in describing a duck, for instance, then the duck's keal become a bit more logical if I apply some nautical imagery. (Of course, I have not knowledge of ships, boats, etc., so I may have mistaken imagery.)

The other way I have heard this part described was as "boneless cuts of white meat." A rather long description for a five letter word.


myLot reputation of 87/100. dodoguy (767)   ranked 874 out of 8,605 in cooking  9 months ago

Hi Winter08,

Thanks for your thoughtful response.

I'd not considered the term "white meat" for chickens, though that's pretty much what it is, I guess.

Yes, we have KFC here in Australia. Along with just about all the other fast food franchises. I tend to avoid fast food franchises for chicken - cooked a bit too much, I generally find.

I like your idea of using "keel" for the duck - if that's how it is spelt (couldn't find "keal" in my dictionary). Might not be too many aquatic chickens, but then there's not too many chickens feeding their kiddies on milk either.

I wonder if any but the English-speaking world worry so much about what is said in the kitchen.


myLot reputation of 90/100. Winter08 (334)   ranked 3,078 out of 8,605 in cooking  5 months ago

Maybe you can start using the "b" work again. I just saw a discussion where they are using the "b" work. Will it stay or will it go? Maybe myLot has updated their monitoring system. Of course, the discussion is only hours old so it may be pulled by tomorrow.


myLot reputation of 87/100. dodoguy (767)   ranked 874 out of 8,605 in cooking  5 months ago

Hi again Winter08,

Well I found out today that myLot considers a pus-sy cat to be a VERY naughty animal, and will block any such reference from the forums.

Meanwhile, it's OK to say boobies, but not that OTHER titular term...

I'm thinking to myself, maybe the myLot censor needs to lighten up a little?


myLot reputation of 90/100. Winter08 (334)   ranked 3,078 out of 8,605 in cooking  5 months ago

Out of curiosity, I was looking at a number of your discussions. I didn't respond to them because, frankly, your style intimidates me ... a sharp intellect coming out in "strange" topics. And they phrasings you come up with ... how about creating your own new word for the "b" word? With the power of myLot, it could eventually become an offical dictionary word. And, eventually, banned by myLot ... which would make it even more official.

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2. myLot reputation of 85/100. Modestah (7428)   ranked 259 out of 8,605 in cooking   7 months ago

I tried calling them chicken chests for awhile, but it just hurt my ears too much to do so.

I got to thinking though how strange it is that we call them Bre@sts when a chicken truly has none - as they do not nourish their young with hens milk. I think that some people have taken to calling chicken wings - chicken fingers*at least when prepared for eating.


myLot reputation of 87/100. dodoguy (767)   ranked 874 out of 8,605 in cooking  7 months ago

Hi Modestah,

The thought of chicken milk verges on Twilight-Zonish!

I personally think the term "bre*st" can legitimately refer to the flesh at the front of a creature's rib-cage, at least in a generic sense, so that any animal with a rib cage might be considered to have a "bre*st" according to the same sense that labeled the "bre*st plate" on a medieval knight's armor.

But the logical tendency to extend the specific analogy of mammalian nurturing organs yields some warped images (for me, at least).

If I had to take a leap, in some other parallel dimension where peculiar notions merge with reality, I'd imagine chicken's milk would be yolk-colored and banana flavored.

I'd have to think a long time before I decided to buy a bottle of chicken milk from the local supermarket, though. I can't imagine it complementing the coffee, though it might add a wholesome flavor to the breakfast pancakes.


myLot reputation of 85/100. Modestah (7428)   ranked 259 out of 8,605 in cooking  7 months ago

hi dodo,

you have given me something to ponder.

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3. myLot reputation of 88/100. thedaddym (415)   ranked 2,514 out of 8,605 in cooking   5 months ago

You could call it the white meat part of the chicken. I think most people would know that, that is the bre8st.


myLot reputation of 87/100. dodoguy (767)   ranked 874 out of 8,605 in cooking  5 months ago

Hui thedaddym,

I agree, calling it the "white meat" seems to be the best and most civil solution to what otherwise might prove to be a sticky situation.

It's unfortunate that the colloquial terminology is victim to multiple interpretations, one of which is frowned upon in the forums here (and hence by default, all of which are excluded).

So apparently, "white meat" it is!

Although I still like "boobies", partly because there IS a bird by that particular name...

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