Are you "making it" in America? Does your income meet your NEEDS?  | | I'm not asking anyone their income here. And I don't want to hear that your income isn't sufficient because you can't buy a wide screen tv. I'm wondering how many people are struggling to meet the bare necessities. Do you have Health Insurance coverage, Life Insurance, Savings, Retirement? Can you put your child through college, or will you have to mortgage your house to do it? What is keeping you from "making it"? Lack of education, no vehicle, heavy unemployment in your area? I don't want this to be a sob story place. I'd like to see what the real NEEDS are, and if there are commonalities. Thanks for responding.
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| | | | | | | | 1. terilee79720 (1463) | 7 months ago | Hi Kerenhap, We are a older couple. My husband is 60 and I am 57. We've been together for a very long time. We live ina modest, 2 bedroom home in a small town. We have downsized to one vehicle, a new pickup. We have health insurance and life insurance through my husband's employment. We have a nice saving and have worked hard for many years to secure our retirement. Our daughter went to college and we didn't have to mortgage anything for her to go. We have managed to have everything we want, based on the fact we don't really want much more than what we already have. We're looking forward to my husband's retirement in a couple of years. By most people's standards we are not rich by any stretch of the imagination, but from other's point of view, we live quite well. I don't mind saying we have managed to accomplish a comfortable lifestyle and have maintained it all of our lives together. It comes from good money management. While my response might not necessarily fill what it is you are really looking for, because we really have all of our needs met, I can tell you a comfortable lifestyle can be achieved. It just takes a lot of hard work and sacrifice, not always buying brand new. Hope this helps.
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| Kerenhap (43) | 7 months ago | Thank you Terilee. I appreciate your response. It helps others understand about living moderately. Personally, I think we too easily get caught up in the continual marketing and advertising that is pushed at us non-stop. We all want a little more, but when we jump too quickly to go after it, that can create problems.
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| | 2. angelface23 (1617) | 7 months ago | we are not 'making it' right now. We moved out of our apartment in December ot live with my grandma cause we just couldnt afford the rent and I was sick of always having to pay the landlord 2-3 weeks late every month. My husband struggles to keep a job. I have been at my job for almost 3 years but I am not an employee so I get no benefits or taxes out. I also have a lot of debt that is catching up with me. I have Sallie Mae loans that I can't afford to pay and they are coming after me threating to garnish my wages. Point being we are trying to save up money to pay off my debt to get it back down to minimum payments and to find our own place.
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| Kerenhap (43) | 7 months ago | Hi Angel, I think moving in with your Grandma was a smart idea. I'm sure she's happy for the company and having others to help out. Many families live together to help pool their resources. Having our own place is important to us all, but I hope that you find appreciation in this arrangement for all of you so that you can take the time you need to get straightened around. When you get back to being more financially secure, I'm sure you'll feel it was worth it. Good Luck!
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| | 3. zukepr (10090) | 7 months ago | We are barely making it! there are 5 kids and 2 adults and only 1 income We have enough money to pay the basic bills (mortgage, utilities, cable, phone, groceries) Now we could be living a little more comfortable if my husband didnt have child support to pay but he does have to pay and he will continue to pay it but just hypothetically speaking IF we didnt have that expense then we would be able to put a little money aside every payday for the future Right now we have no retirement plan and no money saved up and no job security The job he has now is laying people off
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| Kerenhap (43) | 7 months ago | Hi Zukepr Yes, one income is certainly difficult in today's times. But I also think it means a lot to the family and the breadwinner to have someone at home that helps maintain comfort there for everyone. Do you look into cost saving ideas that others post on the internet? Perhaps that it a good discussion for you to build here:) There are some really creative people around. Together you might find some real ways to help each other. Thank you for responding.
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| | 4. dragon54u (2717) | 7 months ago | My situation is a little different from most. I'm divorced after 20 years and I have spousal support but I'm in my early 50's and my husband never saved for retirement. There aren't many jobs available that don't require standing (I have scoliosis and arthritis) and most places I apply to hire younger workers, anyway. Jobs are scarce here. So, although I have an adequate income I have to live as if I don't. I have insurance (pricey!!), enough to eat, I can pay my bills but my future is very uncertain. I realize I'm better off than a whole lot of folks out there, but my income could stop at any time--just like everyone else's!
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| Kerenhap (43) | 7 months ago | Hi Dragon Yes early 50s is a difficult age. We have experience but generally other issues that make us unattractive to employers. My husband goes through that. He works construction which often means finding a new job when the last one is completed. They appreciate his experience, but still only want to pay an entry level wage, which we can't live on. Have you looked into any of the Make Extra Money discussions? I am going to start one on Yuwie. I recently became a member of that. There is much misinformation going on around the net about it. It does have real potential to make some added income while enjoying your social time on the net. There are some real jobs available through the net, it just takes time and some effort to find them sometimes. Thanks for responding.
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dragon54u (2717) | 7 months ago | I'd love to find a job on the net but 99.9% of those seem to be scams--pay us and we'll teach you to make millions. So why aren't they making the millions, otherwise they wouldn't have to advertise? Click to pay is tedious and low paying. It's a shame that, despite what AARP says, employers don't appreciate all the benefits they can get with older workers...we're on time, we don't take sick days unless we absolutely can't get up and move, we have experience, etc. Oops, it's really hard not to go off on a rant. Good luck to your husband! I'll look forward to your post in the money making part of MyLot.
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| Kerenhap (43) | 7 months ago | That's what Yuwie is doing. They give back a percentage of their advertising earnings to the users. Yuwie was created on the idea that its not right for places like MySpace to be making literally billions off the content of their users and not compensating them back.
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| | 5. keymandan (314) | 7 months ago | I think my brother & his wife and two kids are more illustrative of income/needs situation than mine. She is currently in school, and will be able to work in March. His is the only income, and it's definitely not enough to meet even the most basic needs. They literally eat because of food stamps, have no health insurance, savings or retirement. When she goes to work in March things will get better, but his main concern is what will happen when he can't work anymore (he's 52). He also has to pay back child support for a daughter who is now 23, and the discouraging thing is the more money he makes the more he has to pay. All told, they are living on the edge - they've already declared bankruptcy, so even though they have their house and two vehicles, there is no room in the budget for anything extra. Everything is on a cash basis. I'm looking forward to getting some checks in so I can help out.
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| Kerenhap (43) | 7 months ago | Yes, Keymandan These are some of the people I was hoping to highlight here so that others might have some understanding. Living on the edge is very scary and it doesn't take much to topple you. My husband and I are in a similar situation, as I think many in America are today. Networking on places like this can help sometimes to get some real ideas, but also it just helps to know that others understand and are in the same boat. It's great that your sis-in-law is going to school. I hope that will provide a step up for them. Hanging on in the mean time with nothing extra can get tiring after a while. It helps to have some good friends for support. I'm finding that at places like this and Yuwie. Your pic looks familiar. Are you on Yuwie?
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keymandan (314) | 7 months ago | No, I'm not on Yuwie, I am on myspace and facebook, though I do not go on those sites very much. Hopefully, you haven't seen my picture at the post office.:O Doing a sampling of how people are doing financially with mylot is not a true picture of America or the world as a whole. We have time to participate in these discussions, and those who are doing well usually are quite busy. Still, we are seeing a decline in the middle class' standard of living due to lower paying jobs, inflation, increased debt, and the break up of the family structure. We can't do well when we have the highest per capita inmate population in the world - those people could be producing but instead are a drain. Living in debt is another form of prison - the interest demands that you make more money than what you did when you made the loan, and once you do make more money, you have to pay off the debt, so you can't spend it on the things that you want or need. A trap for sure. If on the other hand, you declare bankruptcy, then you can't buy anything on credit, which means that you have to make more than enough to pay your bills (you still have to have shelter, food, heat, and transportation along with liability insurance, plus you still have to pay taxes on what you consume) in order to purchase anything of value. To show just how "up a creek" we are as the consumer, consider how much of the year we work to pay for things that we have no control over: according to several studies, we work until May 15 to pay all the taxes we owe - income tax, sales tax, license fees, property tax, vehicle tax, capital gains tax, inheritance tax, social security tax (and yes it is a tax, as we have no legal claim to the money collected), and school tax to name but a few. Now, most of us have some amount of debt - mortgage, car loans, credit cards. We probably work another 2 months to pay the interest on the debt we have, so now we are at July 15 before we earn money for things like food & shelter (the principle on the mortgage). Finally, we are required to have insurance on everything we borrow money on - our homes & cars, mostly. But like taxes and interest, we have to pay it because we don't have the money to obtain those goods and services ourselves. So, it is likely that we work another month to pay for the insurance on everything we own (and liability insurance for vehicles MUST be paid, so it is actually a tax), so now we are working till Sept. 15 to pay taxes, interest, and insurance. That leaves 3-1/2 months for food, clothing, shelter, fuel, vacations, and luxury items. You can see how quickly a family goes down hill financially if one or more of the members has an alcohol or drug habit. Even if they don't, every penny must count; every thing and everybody in the household must produce, or else they will go further in debt, and ultimately will face a slow financial death. I don't want to be pessimistic about the family's chance to do well, only to emphasize that there can be no slackers.
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| Kerenhap (43) | 7 months ago | Yes, Keyman, You're right. I know that the cross section of MyLot folks is not a good reference for a true study. I just wanted to give folks an opportunity to let their voices be heard, perhaps get some ideas and encouragement from others, etc. Your points are very well taken. Thanks.
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| | 6. sylvrrain (598) | 7 months ago | We are making it, barely. (No, I don't have the wide screen) Between bills, groceries, gas and insurance, by Thursday we are really cutting it close. I still feel blessed that I can put gas into my old car and have money to spend at the grocery store. I think the only problem in the area that I live in is the lack of higher paying jobs. There are jobs to be found, but few really good ones.
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| Kerenhap (43) | 7 months ago | Yes Sylvrrain, The lack of good paying jobs is becoming more and more of a problem in the States today. With jobs being outsourced overseas, what are Americans to do? It's a major problem that I hope will get addressed if the focus comes back to America, rather than Iraq with a new president. Though I'm sure it's difficult, I'm glad for you that you are "cutting in close" rather than being under the wire:) Thanks for responding.
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| | 7. dlkuku (1232) | 7 months ago | We struggle to just pay the bills, mortgage, electric, phone, we don't have extras. We thankfully have health insurance through hubby's work which is company paid, we have purchased insurance that will pay the house off if something happens to one of us. He has life insurance through his union, and a pension. But we have no separate savings, which we have been discussing. On the good side, we have made no new debt, and have worked to pay some things off, our goal to become debt free eventually, except the house of course. As for college, my daughter will be going to the community college, their tuition rates aren't as bad as other schools, and it's a good school. We are also looking into financial aid for her, applying for everything we can. Jobs in this area are really hard to come by, there have been so many layoffs and plant closing in the last year, over a thousand jobs were lost.
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| Kerenhap (43) | 7 months ago | Well, dlkuku, it seems you have worked hard to get the measure of security you have. I'm glad for you. Applying for everything you can, and starting early when it comes to college financial aid and scholarships is great advice for others. Thank you.
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| | 8. sid556 (4781) | 7 months ago | I am barely getting by. I am always grateful when I've been able to pay my rent knowing that for at least the next month, I will have a roof over my head as long as I don't mess up and have my electricity shut off. Getting ones electric shut off is automatic cause for eviction. I drive an old beat up car and can't afford insurance on it. I don't have health insurance and I don't get food stamps or anything like that because I work full time and am considered making too much. I have a re-built computer that I only paid 100.00 for. I don't own a cell phone and my tv is a 2nd hand one that i've had for 7 years. I own no new furniture and I don't spend alot on clothes or luxury items. Others have it much much worse. At least we are getting by...others are not.
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| Kerenhap (43) | 7 months ago | Sid, yes, I hear you. Thank you for the positive position you take, even though your situation could be brighter. When they label us, you and I fall into that new category of "missing" Middle class; meaning that we make too much for help but not enough to be considered middle class. We ride the edge day to day struggling to make sure that we don't fall off the wrong side of the fence. The difficulty of that lifestyle is unknown to many, and one of the reasons I created this discussion. I was curious how many would respond in that manner. Thanks for your response.
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