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A Woman can have an Abortion but cannot eat Food cooked in Transfat email this discussion to a friend?

myLot reputation of 75/100. gewcew23 (2749)   ranked 16 out of 4,387 in debating3 months ago

It is her body right? That is the reason for a woman's right to choose right? So cities around the country has made it illegal to cook food in transfat. Why, because the government wants to protect to from yourself. Micheal Bloomberg Mayor of New York City, Pro-Choice on abortion but not on food. I have a problem with this. If a woman can choose to have an abortion, why cannot she choose what she eats.

 
 
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1. myLot reputation of 20/100. redyellowblackdog (2532)   ranked 507 out of 4,387 in debating   3 months ago

Still more proof that Pro-Choice people are anything but! It is hard to say it enough.


myLot reputation of 75/100. gewcew23 (2749)   ranked 16 out of 4,387 in debating  3 months ago

The problem is that some do not see the connection. So I will keep writing these kind of discussions intel I get it through to the masses.

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2. myLot reputation of 87/100. Ravenladyj (13528)   ranked 367 out of 4,387 in debating   3 months ago

So cities around the country has made it illegal to cook food in transfat

right...so why is that not a good thing? Its not like its JUST illegal to cook a womans food in transfat..this is for the better of our elderly, our children, ourselves and so on....Transfat is UNHEALTHY..Abortions ARE NOT..its like comparing apples and bricks..there is no similarity whatsoever..


myLot reputation of 22/100. Springlady (1749)   ranked 1,413 out of 4,387 in debating  3 months ago

Unhealthy to the unborn child and to the woman in due time.


myLot reputation of 87/100. bobmnu (1362)   ranked 5 out of 4,387 in debating  3 months ago

T}Check out CDC in Alanta and you will find that over 5000 women die each year from abortions. How many people have died from eating something cooked in Transfat? If you are going to count all the complications fro transfat then we need to count the child that was aborted (in 2000 about 857,000 abortions)


myLot reputation of 75/100. gewcew23 (2749)   ranked 16 out of 4,387 in debating  3 months ago

When did it become the job of the almighty government to tell us the subjects what we can and cannot eat. So let me try to understand your logic or the lack there of, a woman can have an abortion, but cannot have her food cooked however she wants it. It is her body, is it not, or does it belong to the government.


myLot reputation of 71/100. anniepa (4991)   ranked 650 out of 4,387 in debating  2 months ago

"So let me try to understand your logic or the lack there of, a woman can have an abortion, but cannot have her food cooked however she wants it. It is her body, is it not, or does it belong to the government."

But, is that entirely true that she can't have it cooked however she wants it? I mean, if she wants to cook it herself that way can't she? (For the record, I'm not defending any law against trans fats.)
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3. myLot reputation of 84/100. creative_genius (376)   3 months ago

What an odd comparison! I really do not understand the issue you have with it. Trans fats are bad for you and so are illegal. Abortion is a whole different issue.


myLot reputation of 75/100. gewcew23 (2749)   ranked 16 out of 4,387 in debating  3 months ago

No it is not if a woman has control over her body she should have control over her body. So because transfat are bad for you government should not allow you to buy food cooked in it. Smoking is bad for you, but that is legal. Beer can be bad for you, but it is legal.

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4. myLot reputation of 49/100. Latrivia (677)   ranked 388 out of 4,387 in debating   3 months ago

There's no valid comparison between a women's choice of abortion and a law prohibiting RESTAURANTS from cooking with trans fats. The woman still has the right to choose whether or not she eats trans fats, she just can't get those trans fats at a restaurant. The issue is not with the choice of the individual, but with the restriction of what the business can and can't use in their products or services. You know, kind of like how abortion clinics can no longer perform partial birth abortions in America (not legally, anyway).

It's the same case, here. A woman can have an abortion just as she can have foods rich in trans fats. There are just restrictions on both.


myLot reputation of 75/100. gewcew23 (2749)   ranked 16 out of 4,387 in debating  3 months ago

No valid comparison WHAT? A woman can have an abortion but she cannot go into a restaurant and by something cooked in transfat. You cannot see the comparison, good grief. In New York and other cities it is not a restriction, it is banned.


myLot reputation of 49/100. Latrivia (677)   ranked 388 out of 4,387 in debating  3 months ago

A woman can not go into a restaurant and get something cooked in trans fat, just as she can not go into an abortion clinic and get a partial birth abortion. In both cases the general product or service is still available, but the availability of it is conditional - i.e. there are restrictions.

Like I said before, no comparison.

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5. myLot reputation of 98/100. emeraldisle (9054)   ranked 2 out of 4,387 in debating   3 months ago

This is a very good point. Why is it the government's job to decide what is good or bad for an adult to do? They should have the right to choose for themselves. For example if i want to have a hamburger that is rare I should be able to order it that way but I can't. I can though order rare pork chops or soft boiled eggs (which can have salmonella) where is the logic in that one?

As adults we should be able to decide for ourselves what we want to ingest, whether it's good or bad for us. As you pointed out a woman can have an abortion which can be mentally and physically risky but she can't choose to have french fries cooked in trans fat? Adults can choose to have plastic surgery which in most cases is elective surgery. It's still risky and dangerous but they are allowed to do so but heaven forbid they eat rare beef. This just makes no sense to me.


myLot reputation of 75/100. gewcew23 (2749)   ranked 16 out of 4,387 in debating  3 months ago

Thank God someone here gets it. It is your body, you own it not the government. I do not understand how so many people just do not get it. I am starting to think people want a nanny state. Maybe I need to stop using abortion in my arguement, but to me it seem to be a good comparison. If you own your body with one issue should not you own your body with everything?


myLot reputation of 98/100. emeraldisle (9054)   ranked 2 out of 4,387 in debating  3 months ago

You're welcome. I thought it was a very good analogy actually. To be honest I think some do want a nanny state. They want things to be banned if it's considered bad for you, the problem is they don't realize that if you allow others to decide sooner or later they might not like what they choose. Right now the big things are trans fat and smoking, they are "bad for us" so must be outlawed to protect us however what will be next and who decides? What if they think chocolate is bad for you? Or how about fresh fruit due to all the sugar in it? They don't want to think that it could happen. They think they will still be in control but they lose that control when they allow others to dictate.

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6. myLot reputation of 79/100. irdsm1 (220)   ranked 253 out of 4,387 in debating   3 months ago

While I do not entirely agree with the comparison I do agree that it is ludicrous. Any person has the right to put what they want in their body as long as they pay for it. Trans-fats are a choice. I ould see making it a law that restaurants have to put warning labels on high trans-fat food, but they have no right to ban the cooking of it. This isn't like second hand smoke. I can't get second hand fat or second hand diabetes or second hand heart attacks from the guy eating a burger right next to me. This makes no sense and is most likely unconstitutional in one way or another.

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7. myLot reputation of 71/100. anniepa (4991)   ranked 650 out of 4,387 in debating   2 months ago

I guess in reality she can choose what she eats, it's the restaurants that serve to the general public that can't use the trans fat, or at least that's how I understand it. I really don't see the connection because abortion is about an individual's right and it's a conscious and informed choice but I suppose it could be said it's not as much of an informed choice when you go into a restaurant and order something to eat. What I have more of a problem with is the government dictating that a restaurant can't allow smoking. This is something where it can easily be displayed before someone enters whether a place is a smoking or non-smoking establishment so nobody will be "harmed" by second hand smoke without choosing to be. As far as trans fat being used to cook the foods we get in restaurants I'd prefer if they were simply required to post that fact on the menu so customers can then make an informed choice about that.
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