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myLot reputation of 80/100. stanwshura (243)   ranked 822 out of 6,847 in religion3 months ago

Within the animal kingdom, human beings have taken to the belief that among our conscious and animated brethren, we bi-ped homo sapiens are the most sentient and/or cerebral. In other words, we think. We don't just "do" life, we contemplate it. We wonder about it. We have questions about it. We want to learn about it and investigate it and discover it. We are endlessly curious about our physical, metaphysical, paranormal, sensorial, cognitive, affective and spiritual boundaries. We want to know what's what.

Most of all, however, we want to know*WHY*. Why are we here? What happened before I was born to facilitate this..this miracle of circumstances and coincidences that ended up producing ME? What if that student hadn't wandered into the stax on his way to the humanities area to find that book on Freud, and what if he hadn't been so fixated on the Dewey numbers that he bumped into that young woman, herself
engrossed in all things Jung?

"Oh, man! I'm such a doofus! God, are you okay? Sorry about that."

"I'm fine, relax. You're in Professor Screwloose's Psych of Personality class, aren't you?"

"Y-yeah. Let me get that. Here. You too, huh? Boy, talk about a human sleeping pill! Hhhhhnnnnnkkkkkkk....kk...zzzzzZZZZZZ!!!"

Giggle. SNORT! "No kiddin', right?", (chuckle). "I'm Debby."

Staightening up, with a broadening smile, "I'm Biff."

And what if "Biff" hadn't found "Debby's" snort intoxicating enough to ask her if she would like to study together? And then have either the meatloaf of the Chef's Surprise a la Leftovers at the student cafe? And maybe again the next day. And then...

And then... ...happpily ever after, blah blah blah. Would I have been born to another random pairing of goo-goo-eyed fornicaters to be? Would I NOT have been born? Would I never have BEEN? BRrrrrr!!!!!!

It is also a truth I have come to accept that change is constant and will not stop. Everything - EVERYTHING - is cyclical and finite, and the latter is a logical certainty by the very*definition* of change. Equally defining of change is that should*it* stop, everything stops. Living is action. We live because we breathe in air (CO2, O2, and, among many other gasses, probably some Su if uncle Eddie eats another chili dog). Assuming
"Unkie's" sulfuric contribution doesn't kill us, we live on to expel CO2 and other stuff. Our bodies use the oxygen to help facilitate the other biological funcitons that, too, have cycles - beginnings and ends. Uncle Ed's chili dog is dead. Still, matter is neither created nor destroyed and thus, the food is used and the waste eliminated.

It eventually returns to earth and helps compose the fertilizer that nature just knows how to balance. A**es to ashes, butts to dust. One things ends SO THAT another can begin.

Right now, it's my turn. Someday, it won't be. My material will be metabolized and used by nature to give the next newborn baby HER turn. Life ends. We end. The great nothing.

But why? What is the point of going through all of that? Because the alternative is so mind-blowingly horrific? I can certainly understand and buy that. But what if there is something more? What if being born and living and dying isn't the means to its own end? What if there is a greater purpose?

That seems credible to me as well. I do not know. What I do know is that I am very drawn to the idea that the ME of me won't just go "caput" when my body has gone through its cycle and returned eventually to earth. I'd like to think that that quaint and lovely courtship between "Debby" and "Biff" wasn't just an emotionless, unspiritual necessary function of nature to just "keep on keeping on".

I'd like to believe that LOVE is as real as my flesh. I'll settle for the wonder. I guess I'll have to. As I don't know how my miraculous birth (hey, it's miraculous to me!) could POSSIBLY have happened, maybe it wasn't by chance. I'm not a fan or devotee to some cheesy notion of anything "Holy" about life, just as a matter of "just in case" piety. I am in true wonder as to how I could possibly have come to be!

And, I am equally wondrous, captivated, and okay, maybe a little frightened, by the uncertainty of what will come of "me" at the time of my biological death, and ever after. I wanna believe in SOMETHING continuing. Some afterlife or paradise of even just the continuation of a new cycle. I do hope my ashes, and maybe Uncle Eddie's "contribution" can be of some use to Mother Earth. And I hope that "Mom" might be able to find me another sentient existence. Maybe one where I get to have wings?

Does a new consciousness become "me" after my death? If so, why THEN? What is so special about RIGHT THEN? Why not before then? Oh, right - there cannot be two of me at once - and God help you all in that case, heh heh. Why then not some period of latency - silence - nothing? Oh, right. The great nothing. BRRR!!!

Is it something called a soul? And, if there is a soul, maybe it does not "reimplant" into another body, although I have decided that that is a perfectly legitimate possibility and if so, a beautiful gift of grace.

Is there a heave? Is there an almighty savior and protector? Does there need to be? I don't know. I wrestle with it all the time. I think that that is one of the crucial essences of being sentient and human. We question. We ask. We yearn. We want. And we pray?

Alas, religionn is indeed BORN.

 
 
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1. myLot reputation of 97/100. harshadod (425)   ranked 2,688 out of 6,847 in religion   3 months ago

We adapt and evolve to have more of self. What aids in this process is incorporated into the programme. To cope with the changing nature, we need a changing set of genetic information, so probably evolution.

The brain likes authority, conformity, obedience and this learning of brain is to facilitate survival.

When as a society you are more obedient, it is easier to pass on the learned experience. Out of the need for authority, conformity and obedience came religion.

It is difficult for the cerebral brain to accept that it is a part of nature and that nature is not a part created by it. Our obsession with creation makes us to search the ultimate creator, while it could all have been chance.

The cerebral brain can never accept that the beauty, nature, art, music, miracles all is a simple process of survival.
It like to view all this with a higher meaning.

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2. myLot reputation of 88/100. Breath (1510)   ranked 2,800 out of 6,847 in religion   3 months ago

I am a simple thinking woman...I could never use or explain life or write the beauty in poems you seem to write so effortless...I mis spell all the time and this is ME...Take it or leave it...Yes Stan I believe in a new birth of a soul after death...When our bodies do fall in the hole under a tree in some grave yard we have picked out before our death our soul is set free...It is almost like being born again I guess only backwards...How could we be alive with such a awarness of life to have it all end with just a magic move of a hand...Everything little or big happens for a reason...A almighty power who has made us does give light at the end of the tunnle..Death is not the end...Laugh or shake your head to my own beliefs but this is more then just a hope I cling to in the thoughts of a after life...I have seen been in conntact with the dearly departed ever since the age of 5...Talked to them,seen them and all of the things you could only dream of...To see is to believe and for anyone who has not seen the side of the supernatural will not believe me in most cases...So yes I know some kind of life awarness dose live on in our soul...We become all the things that go bump in the night when we do leave our body for that next train ride....I can sometimes hear that lonely train and hear her whistle blowing like a haunting ghost...I just hope SHE has many more stops to make before she finds me waiting at the train stop...


myLot reputation of 80/100. stanwshura (243)   ranked 822 out of 6,847 in religion  3 months ago

Lauressa, it has become clear to me that I could never,*ever*, laugh AT you or what you think or write. I am more than happy and jazzed and giddy to laugh WITH you - but I am continually touched by your willing vulnerability in (service/deference/defense of?) the truth - or what we humans can discern of it, anyway.

Hee hee...nice conclusion to your comments. I can see that you are also sometimes powerless to restrain your inner poet.:) (((Lauressa)))


myLot reputation of 88/100. Breath (1510)   ranked 2,800 out of 6,847 in religion  3 months ago

I do have a poet inside my very heart and she writes non stop...(do you believe in ghost)?


myLot reputation of 88/100. Breath (1510)   ranked 2,800 out of 6,847 in religion  3 months ago

P.S. Did you know I am ghostdream on thisisby...

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3. jdrhodes (88)   ranked 2,734 out of 6,847 in religion   3 months ago

Self is a perception you lock yourself into because of the limitations of your physical manifistation. Are you concerned with existing beyond this life in a way you can percieve? You are energy. Everything around you is energy. Everything is you. You are everything. You cannot be destroyed, only alter your physical manifestation. Why would you want to percieve everything for ever anyways? Learn to see outside of yourself. No it doesn't matter. Nothing is important when it is so temporary in the face of the infinate. Just enjoy life while you can, live in the moment. You worry too much.

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