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myLot reputation of 67/100. freethinkingagent (245)   ranked 459 out of 6,847 in religion3 months ago

Much debate on Creation verse Big Bang going around. I don't see why they have to be opposed to each other. I will do a compairison with creation verse Big bang/ evolution and see if creation and science say pretty much the same thing.

Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
*Okay see that this is NOT the first day but the beginning, 13.7 billion years ago the universe was created in what we call the big bang, when all matter was thrown into the void of space. There is no reason to say God did not create the universe in this way.

Gen 1:2 And the Earth became a desolation and a ruin, and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the spirit of God moved over the face of the waters.
* I used the correct translation of 'became' (hebrew: hayah, to be, become, come to pass) and 'a desolation' (hebrew: tohuw, desolation, a desert, worthless, lifeless). This points to the fact that the earth was at one time full of life and compleat but became desolut.

110,000 years ago in fact a large meteor crashed into the earth sending tons of earth into the uper stratusphere, darkening the Earth and sending it into an ice age and ending about all life on earth. So the earth did become a desolation and without life and darkness covered the earth.

Gen 1:3 And God said, "let their be light", and there was light.
Gen 1:4 And God saw that the light was good and destinguished the light from the dark.
Gen 1:5 God called the light a day, and the darkness he called night. and there was an evening and a morning, a day.

Around 15,000 years BC The earth began to warm, the dust in the upper atmosphere began to settle and light began to illuminate the Earth once more, This is when we get a day, this happened over a thousand years, as I am taking the verses that a day is a thousand years to the lord, and each day afterward is a thousand year day.

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1. myLot reputation of 91/100. tthom64 (164)   ranked 3,449 out of 6,847 in religion   3 months ago

I kind of think along these same lines. I believe the more we understand about science, the more the words in the Bible will make sense as to the order of how things happened. I'm not a Bible literalist and don't believe that God meant a "day" as in one of our 24 hr periods. I don't have the exact verses, but from this point don't the scriptures mention first dividing the water from the land, then the plants, then the animals, then the humans. Sounds pretty much like how science says it all happened. You have to remember who God was talking to and what they could understand at the time the Bible was written. I think all he really felt it was important to know what that He created the Earth and is our God and he gave man dominion over the Earth - in other words, he expects us to do our best to take care of it. A whole thesis on biological evolution and general relativity would have been hard to write in those days huh?


myLot reputation of 67/100. freethinkingagent (245)   ranked 459 out of 6,847 in religion  3 months ago

Exactly, I beleive you have a great understanding of the general thought here. God didn't neccarly want us to beleive he did this or that in a day, but did it in steps over time. Kudos!


myLot reputation of 91/100. tthom64 (164)   ranked 3,449 out of 6,847 in religion  3 months ago

Yeah, I often thought that the words "Let there be light" was a pretty good description of the Big Bang OR the birth of our own star(sun) and hence it's solar system.

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2. mihopopcorn (73)   ranked 3,890 out of 6,847 in religion   1 month ago

I think that the Jews were simply being poetic by putting god in the picture of creation. Besides, back then, nobody knew about gravity or quantum mechanics. As always, i believe that the bible is nothing but a colorful fantasy storybook.

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