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Making bad choices doesn't make you a victim...or does it? email this discussion to a friend?

myLot reputation of 97/100. foxyfire33 (4956)   ranked 14 out of 16,325 in relationships2 months ago

That can apply to my life as well but it was a friend's relationship situation that made me think about it. I'll give you the shortest version possible and would like your opinions on whether she is a 'victim' of bad luck or if it is her own fault for the choices she's made.

When we first met she led me to believe that she's had a lot of bad luck with relationships but held out hope that her current boyfriend was the answer to her dreams...well since then I found out that her first husband was the result of a brief relationship, they got married quickly and by their first anniversary she was pregnant and going throught the process of a divorce. Her second child was the result of a one night stand roughly a year after the first child was born. Fast forward a few years and she was in yet another relationship, this one being with an abusive alcoholic...but she "loved him" and so she stayed for two years until his untimely death in an alcohol related accident. While at the hospital she had the 'pleasure' of meeting his other girlfriend of 6 months. Two months later she met the guy she was seeing when she and I became friends. She herself told me that she invited him back to her house the very night they met...soon after he moved in. She was sure he was the one...but then after a few problems popped up...that she insisted were his fault...he suddenly moved out again. That was on a Sunday...Monday night her new boyfriend spent the night with her and now all she talks about is how happy she is and that sh'e "finally got it right".

I really don't understand. She goes from one guy to the next yet blames all of them for it...even the one that died since he'd still be alive if not for his addiction. So do you see her as a victim of circumstance or just a very lonely woman with low self esteem that continues to put herself in situations destined to fail?

 
 
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1. myLot reputation of 91/100. dumblnddzzy (7691)   ranked 901 out of 16,325 in relationships   2 months ago

After one night sleeping with a guy? She definitrely has very low self esteem, & is blaming all HER problems on the guy's. I know cause I use to do this until I left my ex & then I could see where I went wrong too. My self esteem is at an all time high now & I feel very good about myself. I am dating one guy now for 3 months, & we still have nOT slept together, MY choice. And he respects that also. This friend of your' need's to be single for awhile & get her self esteem & pride back before she has yet another kid & is by herself. These guy's all sound like loser's & that is all she is going to attract, with her low self esteem....Lori


myLot reputation of 94/100. OreoCookie3 (11863)   ranked 532 out of 16,325 in relationships  2 months ago

I agree she needs to be single for a while and learn how to take care of herself. I think she is latching onto these guys for security as well as love and acceptance.. and I think she needs to be alone for about a year at least to learn how to cope with herself, her situation and her kids. Sleeping with a guy on the first date, often just tells the guy she is easy and will do it to anything wearing pants.. the men don't want someone that is that easy. I think she needs to learn how to respect herself, and demand respect from others.


myLot reputation of 91/100. dumblnddzzy (7691)   ranked 901 out of 16,325 in relationships  2 months ago

Oreo, I agree with you she does need to learn to respect herself if she ever expects anyone else to..& sleeping with the guy on the first date is definitely not a good thing....Lori


myLot reputation of 97/100. foxyfire33 (4956)   ranked 14 out of 16,325 in relationships  2 months ago

I agree with everything you both have said...and I do see the pot calling the kettle black irony in me saying these things about her...

This new relationship she's in is all of 2 weeks old... and he is all she talks about, her whole life already revolves around him. This makes her third 'serious' relationship since August 2007. She admits she has low self esteem and doesn't want to be alone. At first before I knew so much about her, I sympathized with her bad luck...but now I think she's just as much to blame if not more so than the men.

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2. myLot reputation of 97/100. rmuxagirl (5333)   ranked 2,768 out of 16,325 in relationships   2 months ago

It seems as if she doesn't know what she really wants and takes relationships too fast if she invited a man back to her house the night they met.


myLot reputation of 97/100. foxyfire33 (4956)   ranked 14 out of 16,325 in relationships  2 months ago

I agree...she has told me she doesn't want to be alone which is why she can't stat single for long. The guy she brought home the night they meant...she told me it was because she 'just knew he was the one'...and then kicked him to the curb when he found someone else who is her current 'the one'.

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3. myLot reputation of 97/100. littleone3 (522)   ranked 2,512 out of 16,325 in relationships   2 months ago

I see her as a very lonely women who does have low self esteem. I think that all she is looking for is someone to love her for her. And because of that she will latch on to anyone who shows her abit of kindness or love. She is probably mistaking lust for love. I just hope for her sake that one day she will find the right guy who understands her.


myLot reputation of 97/100. foxyfire33 (4956)   ranked 14 out of 16,325 in relationships  2 months ago

That is the sad part...as much as I'm annoyed with her 'victim attitude' she does seem like she could be a good person deserving of some real happiness.

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4. myLot reputation of 96/100. checapricorn (3360)   ranked 1,482 out of 16,325 in relationships   2 months ago

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myLot reputation of 97/100. foxyfire33 (4956)   ranked 14 out of 16,325 in relationships  2 months ago

I've wondered how her kids are dealing with this but haven't asked. I know the last boyfriend was really close to them even though he'd only been around since last October. The one before that had been around for 2 years before he died so this was really the first break up they'd really been old enough to notice...they are 4 and 6 now.


myLot reputation of 96/100. checapricorn (3360)   ranked 1,482 out of 16,325 in relationships  2 months ago

wow! I hope she will take a break for any relationship to give time for the kids more and for herself too!Maybe she will also find a real and good and responsible man who will give her all the love and care she is longing!

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5. myLot reputation of 94/100. OreoCookie3 (11863)   ranked 532 out of 16,325 in relationships   2 months ago

I see this woman as a sort of leech. She is always looking for the next man to get her security from. I don't see her as a victim at all.. I see her as the maker of her own fate. This guy will probably leave too, and then she will seduce another man to come to her bed.

I think her behavior stems from having a very low self-image. She somehow can make her life better if she latches onto another man. I see this as not learning how to take care of herself... and I don't think she will ever be happy.. when she becomes older and she isn't so attractive she may not be able to get men to knock on her door to spend the night... she will have to learn to take care of herself. I don't see her has a victim, I see her as an opportunist.


myLot reputation of 97/100. foxyfire33 (4956)   ranked 14 out of 16,325 in relationships  2 months ago

Like I said before, I agree with what you're saying. I just remembered too...the boyfriend that died was also a relationship stemming from a one night stand after a night at the bar.

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6. myLot reputation of 95/100. sparkofinsanity (1421)   ranked 311 out of 16,325 in relationships   2 months ago

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myLot reputation of 97/100. foxyfire33 (4956)   ranked 14 out of 16,325 in relationships  2 months ago

Wow...you just made an excellent evaluation of the situation! I don't think I can add anything else to that, it sounds just like her.

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7. myLot reputation of 100/100. jer31558 (2110)   ranked 952 out of 16,325 in relationships   2 months ago

I think that your last line pretty much sums it up. Some people want a relationship and love so bad that they will accept anything and everything in hopes of finding it. I have always felt that if it is love and meant to be, it will find you, you don't have to find it. I have a friend much the same way. I told him once that instead of looking for love, he should look for a friend and let love find him. At least that way, if love never happens, you still have a friend with which to share your life.

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8. myLot reputation of 99/100. elemental69 (757)   ranked 3,079 out of 16,325 in relationships   2 months ago

Its sounds to me that she has very low self-esteem. I dont mean to sound so cruel, or rude, but it sounds like she is a woman who doesnt want to be alone, and just goes with who ever will have her. I do really hope that she is with the 'right one' this time, who will truely make her happy.:-)

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9. myLot reputation of 100/100. angelwhispers30 (1312)   ranked 405 out of 16,325 in relationships   2 months ago

It seems to me that she has a fear of being alone, and she uses guys as an answer to fill the void.

She definitely has low self esteem, and her fear of being alone is what causes her to pick up all the wrong kinds of guys. I wouldn't be surprised if this relationship fails too, and then she'll go back ut and pick up someone new to fill the void once again.

She's in a repetitive cycle, and the only way she'll be able to break it, is by acknowledging and admitting where she's going wrong and learning to deal with being by herself.

In a way, she is a victim. A victim to her own fears.

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10. myLot reputation of 99/100. terri0824 (2896)   ranked 2,865 out of 16,325 in relationships   2 months ago

I think I tend to think the way you do in this situation. It sounds like she needs to learn how to be on her own and find her inner self before she invest anything into anyone else. Sounds like she has lost herself along the way!

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