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myLot reputation of 80/100. skinnychick (2694)   ranked 1,892 out of 24,127 in life2 months ago

I need some mylot help again.

Here's the story. A little later this month is my Grandma's birthday. She died 20 years ago.
My parents were very young when they had my brother, sister, and I and worked a lot. They left us with my grandmother. My grandmother was my mom. She was everything to me and more. She gave me so many things in life that I cherish. She took me to my first ballet class, was there at every single school function, she embraced my love for the arts, heard my first word, and even taught me how to walk. We were close until she died. I was 15 at the time. She got Colon Cancer, didn't tell anyone and 3 months later she was gone. She went to the doctor pretty much to find out and there was nothing they could really do for her, except medicate her and keep her in the hospital waiting to die. She was only in her 60's when she passed. So her life was short and not a long fulfilled one.

Well, I can't get over her death. Not for a second. The wounds are fresh as if this happened yesterday. I have been to grief counselors with their textbook let it go B.S. My heart is still so broken and I don't think it will ever come back together.
I have suffered an immeasurable loss and I just want some peace with it.

I guess I have to learn how to grieve. Does anyone have any ideas of how I can get past this. Has anyone been through a devastating loss and what has helped you live with it? I know there are things in life we will never be totally over but I need to get over this one just a little.

Any advicde is really appreciated.
Thanks for taking the time to read my discussion.

 
 
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1. myLot reputation of 99/100. katsmeow1213 (976)   ranked 457 out of 24,127 in life   2 months ago

I think it's natural to still feel hurt over her loss. She was a big part of your life and isn't with you anymore. You will always miss her and remember her.
But of course you must remember that life goes on and you need to continue to live yours. Make sure you don't spend too much time dwelling on your loss so that you forget to live your life, your grandmother wouldn't want that.


myLot reputation of 80/100. skinnychick (2694)   ranked 1,892 out of 24,127 in life  2 months ago

I try not to dwell but it seems that sometimes I have no control over it.
Thanks for stopping by.

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2. myLot reputation of 74/100. thepheonix (156)   ranked 4,878 out of 24,127 in life   2 months ago

hey there
its really a big thing to get relieved from that kind of grief
losing a person who had complete influence in your life is much sensitive matter which cant be overcomed so quickly
well
one thing i would like to tell you is that your grandma always loved you very much and always had wanted you to be much happy
so one best thing which i can tell you is that try to feel her presence in your happiness and never thing that shes gone for you
to be a bit spiritual if you could
spirits long in the world for their loved ones to see their happiness


myLot reputation of 80/100. skinnychick (2694)   ranked 1,892 out of 24,127 in life  2 months ago

Thanks for the uplifting and beautiful thoughts.

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3. myLot reputation of 38/100. Gargoyle0134 (851)   ranked 10,895 out of 24,127 in life   2 months ago

My grandmother died 25 years ago and raised me. Of COURSE I am not over it. I just don't beat my self up about it. She had an honored place in my life. I think of her at least once every day.
Everyone has their own way to grieve. If you just accept that this is the feeling, you have a right to it and allow the feeling to co-exist with the other portions of your life and what you need to do..it is fine. It shopuldn't interfere wiht you having your own destiny and life? But id you mesh them, it's fine.
Some people in the orient have shrines to loved elders that have passed on and talk to them every day and include them in their everyday major decisions in life.
Maybe it would help you to do this. I know it isn't done often in the west? But make a shrine, talk to her and remember the good. "Hear" in your mind how she would advise you and continue ot honor and live her.
She will always have a place in your life. Even the philosopher Decartes realized that, when a loved on dies, the more people try to get you to forget the person or get over it, the MORE they are there and you can't!
That woman was loved! And she still is and always will be honored by you. No psychologist can change that and it isn't odd..especially in other cultures. Nothing wrong with it, OK?She can still hold a place in your life. No one "booted" her out once she died. It's nice you had that much love!


myLot reputation of 80/100. skinnychick (2694)   ranked 1,892 out of 24,127 in life  2 months ago

That's a great idea. Thanks so much! I think I will give that a go. I haven't tried that yet. Thanks so much for the thoughtful response.

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4. myLot reputation of 69/100. cynicalandoutspoken (1900)   ranked 1,332 out of 24,127 in life   2 months ago

My great grandmother raised me and was the just the same as you described your grandmother here. She died in July of 1997. I had just turned 19. That was over 10 years ago and I am still not over it. I get in a foul mood every year around the time of her death. I just want to be left alone and not bothered. I won't go to the cemetery to "visit" cause I have issues about crying in pubic and feel like an idiot for talking to a slab of granite.

I wish I could help you darlin, but I never "learned how to cope" with my grief either. Being a witch works for me and a few days afterwards I;m myself again until her birthday in November.


myLot reputation of 80/100. skinnychick (2694)   ranked 1,892 out of 24,127 in life  2 months ago

We are really alike. So far that is how I deal with it every year. The cemetery (I went once) sends me into an emotional breakdown with thoughts that would never be in my mind otherwise. So I avoid that place like the plague. Just seeing her name on a cold stone is too much for me. Thinking of the stuff I put in there with her to go with to the afterlife is also too much. I wish I could help you too.

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5. myLot reputation of 92/100. novataylor (1506)   ranked 597 out of 24,127 in life   2 months ago

Sweet Skinny, I'm so sorry for your pain, but I understand it, all too well. I've suffered devastating losses, darlin, and I can tell you the way I see it and the way I do it, and it might not help much, but then again, it might. What I do is just keep grieving, Skinny, whenever I feel the grief, I acknowledge it, recognize it for what it is, and then usually I continue with what I was doing. It's like there's a pocket inside of me where I keep all of it - sometimes it spills out of that pocket and I have to go have a cry, and when that happens, that's exactly what I do - I go and cry, let it out. Skinny, the only way to get through this is to GO through it, there's nothing in this world that's gonna soothe you but time. Time is the only 'healer' and it doesn't even heal you, but it does smooth over the roughest edges of our grief, makes it easier to bear somehow. Posting this discussion is a very clever way to help get through this too, I think. Talking about it is very healthful. Talking to HER would help too. Did you go to her funeral? Did you get to say something at it? Did you want to say something at it? If there's anything that was left undone then, at the funeral or the surrounding days, do it now. Make arrangements to say what you have to say, to someone, to your SO, to your brother and sister, to your grandma in her heaven,but say what you have to say. There really is something to the concept of closure. I don't know, maybe you said everything you needed to.

It's a very long time to feel such raw pain, Skinny, 20 years, but I still feel that way too about a couple of people I've lost, and sometimes I feel like my grief is a wave that's gonna just knock me over, it's so strong, so powerful, and it's hard when that happens, and all you can do is feel what you're feeling, allow yourself your grief, and when the wave finishes washing over you like that, you go on, you just continue on with your day. There's no magic spell, no pill, no nothin. Just time and your being gentle with yourself, allowing yourself your grief, forgiving yourself your grief. Grief is intensely personal. No one can say what's too long or not long enough. Your grief is yours, nobody else's. Only you can define it. I think really that intense grief like that makes us better people somehow. To feel such pain must surely open our eyes to the pain of others. Not much consolation, I guess, but it could explain the empathy you feel for others. I've gone on forever here, Skinny, I'm sorry. I just feel so much for you and I know how much you hurt, believe me I do. You'll be ok. You'll get through. Talk to your grandma like she was there. She'll hear you. I wish I were there with you, to put my arms around you and comfort you. Can you feel my hug? It's there.


myLot reputation of 80/100. skinnychick (2694)   ranked 1,892 out of 24,127 in life  2 months ago

Thanks Nova...I needed that hug desperately.

Sometimes I feel that I'm so much stronger than this. I do try to talk to her and even expect to hear her voice at times. I can't stand when I don't. She has done things in her way through the past 20 years to show me that she is there. I know she is but I wish she was here physically. Some people want to win the lottery and look at it as the best thing that has ever happened in their life. I would give up anything even a billion dollars to have her back here with me.

I did go to the funeral which was an out of body experience for me. I was slated to talk about her but I couldn't bring myself to do it. I couldn't talk, I felt as dead as she was. I just didn't realize that I would still feel so dead without her.

It does makes us stronger people once we get over the bitterness. At least, I was able to get over that part in most ways.
The wave analogy is perfect for me. That is exactly it. It's insane but so true. I feel like at times I could pass out and wake up, with her back even knowing she isn't coming back.
I had magical daisies sprout in a patch of weeds last year in the garden. They are coming back this year and were never planted there. Daisies were her favorite flower. So there is some stuff that the universe has done to let me know she is around. I only now wish it would kill this grief a little.
Thanks so much for your thoughtful response. I appreciate it more than you will ever know.


myLot reputation of 92/100. novataylor (1506)   ranked 597 out of 24,127 in life  2 months ago

Wow, those daisies, Skinny, gives me goosebumps. It's gotta be your grandma who put them there.

Yeah, that wave. I wish I didn't know what it was. I wish I had never felt it sweep me out to an endless sea. But, there it is. It still comes over me and always will, I'm sure. But it's also the grief that reminds us of the depth of our love, isn't it, Skinny? And I so understand that longing for her to be physically there, and how you, in your mind's eye, can see your own hands reaching, groping, trying to hard to feel her there again. Sweet baby, this is such a hard time for you, I'm so sorry. And ya know, I think I DO know how much you appreciate what I said before, honestly. You're so very much welcome. And thank you too, really, your own sharing is going to help others in their healing, you know. So you're giving a gift with all of this. This is gonna sound weird, but I can feel the love swirling around here, I swear, it's almost palpable. See what you're doing? Kisses to you, babydoll.


myLot reputation of 97/100. AnnieOakley1 (503)   ranked 3,855 out of 24,127 in life  2 months ago

I can feel it, too.

The both of you just brought tears to my eyes.

You are so sweet and caring and loving, Nova.

I feel for you, too, Skinny, really, I do.


myLot reputation of 80/100. skinnychick (2694)   ranked 1,892 out of 24,127 in life  2 months ago

I hope that I can help others from this. If I can't help me, then others will do.:)

Thanks Annie for the wishes!!


myLot reputation of 92/100. novataylor (1506)   ranked 597 out of 24,127 in life  2 months ago

Aww geez, Annie, thank you, darlin.

And Skinny, you WILL help others with this, I promise. You already have. I just hope you can get a bit of peace about this. I've just said my version of a prayer for you. Love to you, baby.

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6. myLot reputation of 53/100. MooPile (1334)   ranked 4,334 out of 24,127 in life   2 months ago

Hi SC.

My grandmother died a while back when I was about 24. She watched me get married and I was pregnant right before she died. She never got a chance to see her grandchildren on my side of the family.

It really upsets me when her birthday comes around and my son, even though he never met her, suggested we get a cake with "Happy Birthday Gramma" on it and add a few candles. So every year on her birthday, my son, my two girls and I get a cake from Wal-Mart with a happy birthday message on it to her and when we blow the candles out, my daughter pointed out that the smoke goes to Heaven so Gramma can still know that we love her and miss her every day.


myLot reputation of 80/100. skinnychick (2694)   ranked 1,892 out of 24,127 in life  2 months ago

Oh...between you and Nova and Cyn...The tears. They are good ones. Kids are amazing for stuff like this. That is a great thought though I couldn't bring myself to do it, I don't think. Thanks so much for the amazing response.


myLot reputation of 69/100. cynicalandoutspoken (1900)   ranked 1,332 out of 24,127 in life  2 months ago

In reading all the responses you got Skinny I think this one made me cry the most. My great grandmother was alive when my first child was born and she promised me she would live until my daughters first birthday. My daughter turned 1 the end of april then the beginning of July my great grandmother died. But she kept her promise.

I couldn't imagine doing something like getting her a cake every year and wishing her a Happy Birthday. It would just make the fact that she isn't here to celebrate birthdays anymore all the more real. But it is so amazing that Moo's daughter pointed out that the smoke goes to heaven.

You got some great kids there Moo.


myLot reputation of 53/100. MooPile (1334)   ranked 4,334 out of 24,127 in life  2 months ago

My kids are pretty smart. When she told me that the smoke goes to heaven so Gramma can see how much we love her, I had to leave the room and go bawl my eyes out in the bathroom while my kids ate the cake.


myLot reputation of 80/100. skinnychick (2694)   ranked 1,892 out of 24,127 in life  2 months ago

I think that would have be all of us Moo, how could you not bawl being there. Just reading it, made me do the same thing.

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7. myLot reputation of 91/100. mikeysmom (555)   ranked 4,398 out of 24,127 in life   2 months ago

first of all let me say that love has no boundaries so just because she left this world does not mean your love for her dies also. that is the hard part. you still love HER. not the memory of her but HER. the person who meant the world to you, that loved you and cherished her time with you. this leaves a huge hole in your life and your heart and at such a young and tender age of 15. there is nothing easy about it. the fact that you love her so fiercely is a tribute to the wonderful person she was and all that she meant to you and continues to mean to you. with that said, how can you get to where it doesn't hurt so much? good question and i do not have an answer or a clever response but i will say that i think you should write down all the happy times you shared and put that together with pictures of her and then each year on her birthday take out the special book you created about her and relive the love and tenderness you shared. she will be there with you and you know you will see her again someday. she is waiting for you and she wants you to live your life and be happy not in despair that she is gone but in joy that you had her in your life. look at the impression she made on you. what a lucky person you are to have had her.


myLot reputation of 91/100. mikeysmom (555)   ranked 4,398 out of 24,127 in life  2 months ago

i wanted to add one more thing. i think sometimes people make the mistake of thinking that if they "get over" something then somehow it means they will forget that person. that is not true. it just means we have found a way to deal with it so we can go on with our lives and not be distraught all the time.


myLot reputation of 80/100. skinnychick (2694)   ranked 1,892 out of 24,127 in life  2 months ago

What an amazing response and a great idea. I was lucky and I would have to say so was the world. My grandma had a lot to offer and she offered it up to those who would listen. She was crazy and quirky kind of like me. OK alot like me or I like her. A book would be a great idea to put these greatest times in my life together. Thanks so much!

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8. myLot reputation of 94/100. p1kef1sh (2247)   ranked 467 out of 24,127 in life   2 months ago

Skinny I don't really know what to say. I have done bereavement counselling training and I don't care what anyone says. Nothing can ever replace the pain when someone that you love so much dies. Time may dull the pain externally, but you feel it in your heart always. You will get loads of good advice I have no doubt. So from me all that I will say is be yourself, cry if you wish. She must have been a lovely person to have formed you into the kind, caring and loving person that you are. I'll raise my glass to you and weep with you if that's OK. Love you. XX


myLot reputation of 80/100. skinnychick (2694)   ranked 1,892 out of 24,127 in life  2 months ago

I love you too my dear one!! Thanks so much for coming by. I need to stop crying but hey here it comes again. This whole discussion it seems. But I knew that would happen.
There has already been some great advice. I just wish somehow this ache would go away.

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9. myLot reputation of 97/100. Sissygrl (4498)   ranked 110 out of 24,127 in life   2 months ago

Hi skinny, I want to tell you off the bat that i have no answer to your question, and n suggestions to make you feel better. i'm sure anything that i could possibly come upp with in this short amoount of time you would have already tried! I just want to let you know i read your discussion, and if there is anything i can do for you let me know.


myLot reputation of 80/100. skinnychick (2694)   ranked 1,892 out of 24,127 in life  2 months ago

Thanks so much Sissy. I might have to figure this one out for myself. Hopefully sooner than later. Hope all is well with the babies!


myLot reputation of 90/100. Angelwhispers (4236)   ranked 525 out of 24,127 in life  2 months ago

(((Sunshine))))) how are you? I want you to know how much you are missed. How are the princesses, is the baby still fussy? Gosh I miss you.

Sorry SkinnyC I just wanted to say hello to sissy, I have not seen her on at all lately.

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10. myLot reputation of 90/100. Angelwhispers (4236)   ranked 525 out of 24,127 in life   2 months ago

Sugar, there are no magic words. There is not magic in healing. I think its a wonderful testament to your grandmother that you honor her like this, but she would not would not want you mired down in grief. Do something special for her birthday, with your own children. Have a birthday party, put her pictures around and let everyone share their favorite stories about her. Do not dwell on her death but rather, tell about her life. Invite the whole family, exchange little gifts to each other in her honor. Listen to her music. Make the foods she would have made for a gathering. Make it a real party.

Only time is a healer, and it will get easier for you. But do not expect it so fast.


myLot reputation of 80/100. skinnychick (2694)   ranked 1,892 out of 24,127 in life  2 months ago

I wish there were magic words at this point. I don't think I could bear to throw a party for her. It would be devastating for me without her there.

I listen to her music everyday and that even makes me cry most of the time. She loved all the old greats- Van Morrison, Cat Stevens, Bob Dylan, she was a rockin grandma. The music I love today is what I grew up on with her.

Thanks so much for the response.


myLot reputation of 92/100. novataylor (1506)   ranked 597 out of 24,127 in life  2 months ago

My goodness, your grandma loved the same music I love! Hey Skinny, I would be your cyber-grandma, if you'd like. I could never fill those shoes, but I could listen. My arms are open.


myLot reputation of 97/100. Sissygrl (4498)   ranked 110 out of 24,127 in life  2 months ago

Hi angel, we are fine and all is well. We are all getting more sleep lately, infact everyone is napping right now except me! kids both have a cold, just a mild cold t hough nothing serious, some runny noses.. Just not a lot of time to mylot lately:( who'd have thought two kids were so much more work then one lol.

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