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myLot reputation of 98/100. primalmom (502)   ranked 427 out of 12,650 in parenting5 months ago

I just called my neighbor to tell her it was time for the kids to come home. It is currently 7:50pm. She said "awww why?" Her boyfriend's 6 year old daughter is spending the night so she wants my kids to be her entertainment I guess. Anyway, I said "It's almost 8pm and bedtime is at 9o'clock." She responded, "But it's summer" to which I said "So?"

Is it me? Am I weird? Is bedtime supposed to change in the summer? Mine never did when I was growing up. It didn't change for my older children when they were kids. Maybe on a Friday night they could stay up but otherwise it remained the same.
Besides.. I homeschool and that doesn't know seasons. We school year-round with a 3 week break every 13 weeks.

What do you say? Bedtime changes or doesn't simply because the season changed?

 
 
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karathrace (195) response was accepted on 9/16/2008.
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tags:  bedtime, summer, sleeping, staying up late, kids
 
1. myLot reputation of 72/100. Lock_Heed (175)   ranked 2,285 out of 12,650 in parenting   5 months ago

Our children are in year round school so they are in session durring the summer. We do change bedtime in summer time. The human body reacts to the environmental changes around it. Children will sense it most and especially in the summer. Remember being a kid? Those happy feelings are part of the endorphines your body no longer produces. The lack of these makes you feel different now.

Children are more affected by the seasons and in different ways. One of them is they are more active in the summer. This is because the human body is still used to foraging as in B.C. times. Therefore more activity is made possible within these prime environmental conditions. I like to let the kids burn that out.
They listen better.

In any case, to me it just sounds like your neighbor wants to see how her boyfriend does with kids. Someone should tell her he's going to act differently durring the courting part of the relationship. lol.


myLot reputation of 98/100. primalmom (502)   ranked 427 out of 12,650 in parenting  5 months ago

Yes I do remember being a kid and being elated at the lack of school and the comingof the warmer weather, etc. I am that way still. If others are growing up and losing their touch with nature (which I do know is true) that's sad that they've allowed that to happen. My kids are raised in a very primal way and so it is different here.

Still.. when I was a kid, bedtime never changed except on Friday nights. I've had many moms tell me that my kids go to bed far too late. I do not think that 9pm is too late in Florida. Any earlier is still daytime. Children, left to their own natural body clocks (which mine are) will sleep 10-12 hours straight. That means 9pm causes wakefulness between 7am and 9am. I'd prefer we get up at 5am but that's not happening anytime soon LOL.

If we're talking BC times.. then "early to bed" was caused by darkness. And "early to rise" was caused by the breaking sun:-) The earlier you wake, the more time you have for foraging. If we followed more closely earth's dictates, we'd certainly be in bed earlier, not later. There would be no light*lol* Come to think of it.. it gets dark at 9 and the sun is up at about 7am here. So I guess we're in line with it.. well the kids are..not myself. I know what happens if they stay up later.. they get up at noon!! Been there; done that too many times.

The problem for my neighbor is that boyfriend is working tonight and his ex-wife left the 6 year old to spend the night without any consultation with my her. My neighbor's own children are in Illinois.


myLot reputation of 72/100. Lock_Heed (175)   ranked 2,285 out of 12,650 in parenting  5 months ago

9pm isn't bad at all. That's our summer time hours, 6:30am - 9pm. Durring the winter it's only till 8pm but wake time remains the same. The kids ofcourse.

We,the parents, are not. lol.


myLot reputation of 98/100. primalmom (502)   ranked 427 out of 12,650 in parenting  5 months ago

Oh and I did mean to mention that by NO MEANS am I saying that others' choices are "wrong". I just thought it odd for someone to assume we did do it the same as she and get a bit irritated that we don't. I understand she wants my kids to 'babysit' her boyfriend's kid. But that's not my kids' job.


myLot reputation of 72/100. Lock_Heed (175)   ranked 2,285 out of 12,650 in parenting  5 months ago

Yep, she should still respect your rules setup for your kids. When she has her own she'll understand if she doesn't now.
She should put hers to sleep aswell, maybe the two of you can discuss it over coffee out back. Sounds like a neighborly thing to do.;)


myLot reputation of 98/100. primalmom (502)   ranked 427 out of 12,650 in parenting  5 months ago

Actually.. and this is the sad thing.. she has 3 kids ages 9, 13, and 16 (the 16 year old is in a juvenile facility out of town.)

I guess she's just one of those parents who expects the kids to entertain themselves and if they dont.. she calls on the neighbor kids to do it??;-/

She's always saying how envious she is of our natural lifestyle and the closeness I have with my children. She is impressed by the way we live. But she doesn't make an effort at improving her own lot.

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2. myLot reputation of 95/100. Shawchert (590)   ranked 1,466 out of 12,650 in parenting   5 months ago

Keep routines the way they are meant to be, if you let your child sleep late just because it is summer... well then they will get into a bad habit like that "just because it is the weekend" or something. I don't have any children that are older, my son is 5 months old and just started sleeping at 7pm rather than 8 or 9 like he use to.

I say keep the same schedule, it's not a big deal, I know there's more sunlight to burn but children need their sleep.


myLot reputation of 98/100. primalmom (502)   ranked 427 out of 12,650 in parenting  5 months ago

Our sunlight extends to 9pm in the summer. That's when mine go to bed.

The way I see it.. our world doesn't change for the summer as other people's do. My kids aren't sleeping later cuz there's no school. My kids don't have to get up in darkness to go to school. School is here LOL

Even so.. I think it's quite difficult when fall comes (for school goers) to re-adjust to the school schedule.

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3. myLot reputation of 95/100. luvstochat (6042)   ranked 954 out of 12,650 in parenting   5 months ago

My daughter had an 8 o clock bedtime when she was going to school but now that it is summer I let her stay up till about*;30 or nine. I think 8 pm is a very reasonable time for you to have other kids go home though. I think your neighbor just watned a babysitter for awhile.


myLot reputation of 98/100. primalmom (502)   ranked 427 out of 12,650 in parenting  5 months ago

Yeah she wants my kids to stay the night there now. So that her boyfriend's daughter can be entertained. I have an idea.. how about put the 6 year old to BED or.. oh wait.. how about entertaining her? Playing cards? Singing songs?

Ahhh too much trouble I'm sure.

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4. myLot reputation of 97/100. LouRhi (733)   ranked 384 out of 12,650 in parenting   5 months ago

We don't really have a summer here like other people. The latest our sun ever goes down is by about 7.30/7.45. So to me 9pm bed time for children seems more than late enough, summer or not.
I can't see why bedtime should change just because of the season. Children need a certain amount of sleep each night and given that most kids are up at the crack of dawn regardless of what time they go to bed, they need to be in bed early enough to provide time for the required sleep


myLot reputation of 98/100. primalmom (502)   ranked 427 out of 12,650 in parenting  5 months ago

My thoughts exactly!

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5. myLot reputation of 87/100. baleleng2008 (457)   ranked 929 out of 12,650 in parenting   5 months ago

For me I think yes we consider it change of bedtime for the kids,but back home we don't normally have bedtime I mean exact time they go to bed.That's why it's sounds odd for me if I heard bedtime for the kids... rolleyes.


myLot reputation of 98/100. primalmom (502)   ranked 427 out of 12,650 in parenting  5 months ago

And some don't. I don't do schedules when they're very young. That's not natural. Babies eat and sleep when their bodies say to do so. And as they get older I go with what they're bodies say as well. But by the time they are school age, there is a definite pattern and need for 10-12 hours of sleep.

When they go to bed depends on the individual family's needs I would suppose. Do they have to get up at 5am? Or can they sleep until 10? Or would sleeping until 10 make it difficult to sleep at night? Or perhaps husband and wife want to be alone at the end of the day. Or there is work and school to consider.

Mine sleep later than most as they are unschooled. Still, I don't want them up until 1am and neither do I want them sleeping until lunchtime.

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6. myLot reputation of 97/100. momalisa65 (971)   ranked 5,362 out of 12,650 in parenting   5 months ago

Well, yea, if there is no reason to get up early in the morning my kids could stay up later at night, but you'll need to explain your situation to your neighbor so she understands that the school year is different for your kids.
You wouldn't think of asking her kids to stay up late for 3 weeks every 13 weeks all year around when there is no homeschooling!




myLot reputation of 98/100. primalmom (502)   ranked 427 out of 12,650 in parenting  5 months ago

LOL! Excellent point Lisa! Duh! I have to use that! Wish I'd thought of it when I was on the phone with her. Rather I was thinking "Ok.. it's summer. And??? What does that have to with anything?"

LOL

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7. myLot reputation of 97/100. KrauseHome (8430)   ranked 2,432 out of 12,650 in parenting   5 months ago

Well, if your kids are younger, I see nothing wrong with having a bedtime at 9 p.m. yr. round as children really need their sleep. As they get into their teen yrs, I feel it should depend, but especially when they are in High School, I would say 10 would be appropriate during the School yr. My sister is like you even with a 16 yr. old. He has prefered since he was like 12-13 staying over someone elses during the summer months due to 9 p.m. bedtimes, just so he could stay up later.


myLot reputation of 98/100. primalmom (502)   ranked 427 out of 12,650 in parenting  5 months ago

Well yeah that's a given. By the time my kids are in their teens, I'm usually not setting a bedtime.. their common sense tells them when to go most times. However, we are unschoolers and it's no big deal to me. If they know they've got to be up at 8am everyday, then their bodies will be ready to go to bed by 11pm usually.

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8. myLot reputation of 93/100. sedel1027 (11895)   ranked 147 out of 12,650 in parenting   5 months ago

Yes, summer time does change. Even when I was working full time I let my son stay up later just because it is light out so much later. We eat dinner much later as well during the summer too.


myLot reputation of 98/100. primalmom (502)   ranked 427 out of 12,650 in parenting  5 months ago

Our schedule just stays the same. It's been the same for many years. Even when I worked 3rd shift it didn't change for the kids. I can see if the daylight lasts longer. And it does here.. it lasts until 9pm--their bedtime.

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9. myLot reputation of 92/100. karathrace (195)   ranked 2,723 out of 12,650 in parenting   5 months ago

I let my kids stay up later in the summer, but I don't think you're strange because you don't . Keeping them on a regular schedule I'm sure is much better for them.

I like to keep them up later in the summer mainly for the selfish reason that I want to sleep in later in the morning.

And we all stay up later in the summer, to enjoy the warm nights, because for most of the year it's dreary and cold. So I like to make the most of our shoprt, not really great summers as I can.


myLot reputation of 98/100. primalmom (502)   ranked 427 out of 12,650 in parenting  5 months ago

It sounds like you have a way that works for ya! I'm in Florida and it's hot nearly all year so "summer" is a year round thing LOL. The only thing that changes is that it's light until 9pm. And we're not "enjoying" the heat.. we try to run from it*lmbo!*

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10. myLot reputation of 92/100. Residual (626)   ranked 2,227 out of 12,650 in parenting   5 months ago

My son's bedtime has changed I let him stay up yo 9 now versus 7 when school was in but rules still apply he will be going to bed at 7 again if he gets in trouble.


myLot reputation of 98/100. primalmom (502)   ranked 427 out of 12,650 in parenting  5 months ago

Oh 7 is WAY early where I'm at. I can't imagine it. I'm not saying it doesn't work for you. It just wouldn't work for me. I don't want my kids crawling out of bed before daylight LOL

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