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myLot reputation of 98/100. kaezy_kulet (1332)   ranked 1 out of 3,187 in philippines7 months ago

how come our militaries can't really find these people? why does kidnapping by abu sayaff just keeps on repeated?! when they have killed the abu sayaff leader they have celebrated..they have thought that that will be the end of the abu sayaff but they were wrong..the abu sayaff are striking again kidnapping again another media men..good thing she had been set free but where there really no ransome? they have just freed ces drilon and her camera man without the ransom they are asking for?

 
 
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everlasting (10027) response was accepted on 8/7/2008.
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tags:  kidnapping, abu sayaff, bandit group of sulu, terrorists, asg
 
1. myLot reputation of 91/100. mimico (2852)   ranked 16 out of 3,187 in philippines   7 months ago

I think the ransom was paid even though they deny it. There's no reason for the abu sayaff to kidnap a high profile reporter then let her go for free. With regards to the military, they have a hard time dealing with the rebels because the abu sayaff call for a cease fire every time they're down, only to betray the trust of the government once they're armed again.


myLot reputation of 98/100. kaezy_kulet (1332)   ranked 1 out of 3,187 in philippines  7 months ago

i also think that they have paid a ransom money for the release of ces drilon. i have watched an interview of a media men also who had been kidnapped they have said that there where payments made.

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2. Pescoe (93)   ranked 1,171 out of 3,187 in philippines   7 months ago

if there's mo more abu sayaff, our military will have no reason to ask for budget for their arms, you know...no budget...no money for them generals...no money= no honey...ayt??


myLot reputation of 98/100. kaezy_kulet (1332)   ranked 1 out of 3,187 in philippines  7 months ago

quite funny but true..

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3. myLot reputation of 87/100. rsa101 (4993)   ranked 100 out of 3,187 in philippines   7 months ago

I guess its more complicated as this bandit group posing as terrorist group fighting for a cause is deeply rooted with religion, and culture. I think military is having a hard time pursuing this as the community itself is partly to blame. Since most their members are either a family member or relative it is but natural tendency that they protefct their own. Religious fanaticism is also very prevalent in the area that is why cooperation even with the most moderate of them tends to side with them at some point. Next is the Military side of things, which also is corrupt at that point. Instead of really pursuing them they just play along and earn something along the way by selling their arms to the bandit group which they know has money from ransoms they got from their kidnappings. It a vicious cycle to see that we all are aware.


myLot reputation of 98/100. kaezy_kulet (1332)   ranked 1 out of 3,187 in philippines  7 months ago

yeah i do think so too.. and have you heard the issue before? the army supply of guns are being sold to the rebel..so much corruption are happening..


myLot reputation of 87/100. rsa101 (4993)   ranked 100 out of 3,187 in philippines  7 months ago

Yes that is true. I guess that was one of Sen. Trillanes' main issues that he exposed during his failed mutiny before. These were never heard after that but I do believe that it is rather true and is happening in the higher ranks of the government.

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4. myLot reputation of 73/100. everlasting (10027)   ranked 199 out of 3,187 in philippines   7 months ago

Since the abu sayaff was created by the cia to help in the afgan war and later left alone in their devices, they have military connections. Even the renegade military personnel said so because they were the ones who witnessed this. The kidnapped americans in the sepadan told the press that they were surprised that when they need something they will find some packages in the roads and they are their supplies! This is the reson why the US soldiers are still staying in mindanao, they do not trust our military to finish the abu sayaffs. There are also speculations that the generals have a share in the loot or ransom of the abu sayaff.

As for the ransom, it was carried by the lawyer of the mayor-negotiator and was placed in 2 duffle bags. if there is a strict implementation of the no-ransom policy, these bandits will not repeat the kidnappings since they will gain nothing from it.

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5. myLot reputation of 92/100. xxjinx8xx (890)   ranked 147 out of 3,187 in philippines   7 months ago

coz they are the terrorists. does the terrorists in the states were all vanish? they are not, right? american people also hunts about the terrorist group but only few of them had been killed. yeah good to ces & her crew that they were freed

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6. myLot reputation of 93/100. julyteen (4276)   ranked 5 out of 3,187 in philippines   7 months ago

it is easy to say there is no ransom policy but by applying what they say is very difficult because this bandits are form because of money. the government deny it because to save the reputation of the politicians and add "pogi" points. ASG still alive and continues doing kidnapping in the of western mindanao.

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7. myLot reputation of 93/100. crisesand (921)   ranked 36 out of 3,187 in philippines   7 months ago

I'm wondering too why our military can't stop this bandits for good. Seems to me they are unidentified.

So can we think ways of stopping them for good? I'm actually have no solution for today. I don't want to blame the government. When faced with such events as this one, we feel to be weaponless.

Maybe it is true that Mindanao has outside forces helping them. Sulu is just very near entrance Malaysia, and we just don't know who reaches them from there.

Maybe it's time to reach out to them, what do you think, or were they forgotten for so long? There are so many issues concerned. How do we create peace with them when we are believing different beliefs and talking different language? i think peace talks are useless.

what was the history behind all these why did they become like this? Mindanao, since I heard of it when I was young didn't change big way 'til now.


so parents can you tell me what's the truth?


myLot reputation of 98/100. kaezy_kulet (1332)   ranked 1 out of 3,187 in philippines  7 months ago

read the comment of everlasting to have an idea where this abu sayaff came from.


i just hope that this terrorism attacks will stop..


myLot reputation of 93/100. crisesand (921)   ranked 36 out of 3,187 in philippines  7 months ago

i've nothing much to say about that though.

Seems like force needs force.

I'm thinking if we don't give ransom, will they stop kidnapping people and killing them? Supposed the freed hostages didn't give ransom, won't they be dead? I believe this people adopted terrorist behaviors and they will sure kill anyone they hate and they like to kill.

I think, though it is more idealist or dreamy, that what needs change is their thought and beliefs, And changing it should be forceful. This could be well-implemented laws that would make them understand order and justice.

Our government do have that responsibility to make this country safe.


myLot reputation of 98/100. kaezy_kulet (1332)   ranked 1 out of 3,187 in philippines  7 months ago

yes it is their responsibility to take care of us their people..and i do hope they will do the right thing..

giving in to the desire of the kidnappers shows weakness that is why those terrorist are laughing behind the backs of our government. if they keep in giving this group what they want they will not stop..they will only continue because they are being given what they are asking for! so what is the sense of fighting them if they keep on giving their needs!! this fight is useless..

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8. myLot reputation of 4/100. juliefaye (744)   ranked 839 out of 3,187 in philippines   7 months ago

The war between the military and the Abu Sayaff would not end because the rebels have been the milking cow of the military where they sell their bullets. Just to quote Sen. Trillanes during the oakwood mutiny:

"the GMA government, through the AFP leadership and Secretary Angelo Reyes, has been selling bullets and arms from the government arsenal to the MILF, Abu Sayyaf and the NPA. These bullets, which kill our soldiers, actually came from the very government that we fighting to defend. This is why there is a war for over 30 years now, and still our enemies have not run out of bullets. As evidence, all the bullets that were recovered from the enemy had the markings that they came from the DND arsenal.

A number of soldiers have died, and even more are going to die in a war that they do not plan to end. Furthermore, hundreds of thousands of civilians have been caught helpless in the crossfire. They do not want the war to end so that it will continue to be a milking cow of greedy and treacherous officials in the AFP and in the government.


myLot reputation of 4/100. juliefaye (744)   ranked 839 out of 3,187 in philippines  7 months ago

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9. myLot reputation of 96/100. misty99 (626)   ranked 432 out of 3,187 in philippines   7 months ago

Why these incidents never stops?Has it ever crossed your mind...a connivance between this two groups (military and rebels).I have nothing against this groups but we have to be open to such possibilities.What about the mediator?Don't you think they have something to do with it as well?Regarding the ransom...I don't think they will let these people go without it.The thing is why they love to kidnap reporters/staffs from this channel-if I'm not mistaken this is the second.Why not kidnap someone from the other channel.lol.joking!!!!

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10. bigboss9123 (43)   ranked 1,055 out of 3,187 in philippines   7 months ago

The issue on whether the Abu Sasaff was paid ransom for the liberties of their victims is not significant as compare to the maladies it brings to the Philippine Society. Lawless groups such as the Abu Sayaff and the like is founded on ideas that their members are willing to sacrifice to the altar of death just to achieve their cause. In that way to find mileage in the society, they resorted to kidnapping, the purpose of which among others, are to find media scope and to support its logistics. In addressing the issue on Abu Sayaff, one must first open again the pages of Philippine history. During the past, it is only Mindanao,Southern islands of the Philippines, that was hardly conquered by colonial powers of Spain and America because the inhabitants therein were patriotic and refused external power which they even now possesses. The Abu Sayaff was in fact the clandestine creation of the past government to neutralize the existing of MILF and after its secret mission they turned out to be the most number one enemy of the government and linked to international terrorist network. The former President Estrada tried to eliminate them entirely but Estrada was the one who was eliminated from the presidency before the expiration of his term. The Abu Sayyaf has acquired already a vast network and "diplomats". They can even finance a political party or politician and some group of legitimate peoples organizations to influence the bureaucracy and to carry out their black agenda without the people knowing it. The government may capture and kill their leaders and members but their ideas may live as is and be continued by other who sympathize with them. It is wrong notion to believe that the present government is not doing its job to curtail the Abu Sayaff for fear of losing the military budget or kickbacks. It is only that an idealistic warrior like the Abu Sayyaff, the moment they were wounded the gallant they will fight, the moment they were killed the more they become. To stop and erase them from the mantle of the earth, effective measures which include not only military actions, but much on education and introduction of real livelihood programs in Mindanao as well as infra facilities to convert that jungle into real place worthy to live on. These job is not only the responsibility of the government but of the entire Filipino people who love peace and tranquility so that the Philippines will become a desired place to sojourn.


myLot reputation of 73/100. everlasting (10027)   ranked 199 out of 3,187 in philippines  7 months ago

the main purpose why the abu sayyaf was created by the cia during the ramos regime was to use train this group to fight the russians in the afganistan. when the russians heard of what the cia was doing, they returned back to their country leaving these group without money and direction. the first leader was a scholar at mindanao state and started planning for revenge to the very institution that created it. in a way, this abu sayyaf is related to our military.

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