If the US starts The Draft...

The US's volunteer army is not doing well, recruits are down significantly. If we keep up with this war and keep on going, which appears likely with both candidates for the Presidency having ideas of who we should kill next, then there will be a Draft.

Why wouldn't the Military be bound by anti-discrimination laws?
If you don't want to go, then it IS forced servitude.

Why wouldn't the Military be bound by anti-discrimination laws?

Do you think they are bound or that they should be? Don't you think that kicking gays out of the military is discriminatory? That right there shows that they are not bound from discrimination.

My dad is retired military, my ex is military, my brother-in-law is military, my brother is military and my husband is military. Not one of them think we are in danger of having the draft re-instated.

I know the Air Force actually goes through phases of kicking out as many people as they can to lower their numbers. The branches are starting to go to joint military operation. I am very doubtful a draft will ever take place again. I don't think they would force women in regardless, they would make some loophole.

Homosesuals are in the military. Remember Don't Ask, Don't Tell.

I hope we don't have a draft at all.

I have a co-worker who is a close personal friend of a very high placed general and according to that general there will be a draft in about 3 years.

My next door neighbor is in the Air Force, it costs a lot of money to train Air Force personnel. They ar ehighly specialized jobs. If a draft occurs it's not to draft people into the Air Force but infantry Army.
Regular Infantry Army is cheap, 6 weeks in boot camp, give 'em a gun and their on the way.

Thelastwolf,

I will say this my exhusband was army and no it's not 6weeks and give them a gun it's three months of intensive training for what ever you go for in the army. Sorry that you are misinformed there on the length of time to train.

Basic Combat Training, or BCT, is now a 9-week training period that is identical for all Military Operational Specialties. (wikipedia)

It seems we were both wrong. But the EXACT same amount, we'll at least we have something in common. LOL (It's a joke, just clarifying so you don't think I mean something else.)

Peace between us?

My son's unit was activated and spent 6 months in training before they were sent to Iraq. This did not include the special weekend training. All the solders had received basic training of 9 weeks and Advanced Individual Training ranging from around 4 weeks to 18 months. My other son's unit is scheduled to be deployed sometime next year. They will spend three weeks this summer in special training and have specific training they are to do at their weekend drills. When the troops are sent over they are as well prepared for what they will face as the Army can make them.

It is a dilemna.
The women's right to choose is more about health issues and abortion. Regardless of what 'right to choose' means, if women have a right to choose then wouldn't men also have the same right?

One would think, but I've found that most special interest groups (feminist or others) are more into demanding special privileges. Calling them "equality" just sounds better.

Special priviledges and equality, sounds rather ridiculous, doesn't it? Since 'special priviledges' insures that you are not treated equal to everyone else.

They do seem mutually exclusive, but in a world where you're accused of "discrimination" if you don't specifically single out a group.. oh nevermind, it causes headaches. lol

I know what you mean, LOL

McCain want us to go to Iran and Obama says we should go to Afghanistan and Pakistan 'where we belong'.
Either way it seems we are going to be a war for quite some time.

Oh Iran? How wonderful is that? I need to turn on my television more often, we have not had a president stupid enough to take on Iran although with Iraq in pieces I am sure it would be easier. I wish we could find a president that would realize that we can't fix the worlds problems and need to fix our own problems. Thanks for filling me in.

Yes, it's about Iran's nuclear program. Which is pretty ironic since the US has the most WMD in the world.

I hope it doesn't come to a draft, but if it does, these are the issues that need to be dealt with.
I can't imagine being forced into a war, and there is no way I want to see women being drafted, or men for that matter. BUT there is no way, they can only draft men, since women ARE part of the Military and they fight in combat. What would be the basis of of discriminating against them for combat draft?

I grew up during the Vietnam War, which is EXACTLY why I am against the Draft.
Obama's no better, I thought he was good because he said he wants to get us of Iraq. Until I read that he wants us to go to Afghanistan and Pakistan. So much for no more war.
All I know is, they are NOT getting my only son, even if we have to leave this country.

war will push up the US economy so I do not think they will get out of war.

When I think of who's taking away my freedoms, there's only one answer: the US government. Not Iraqis or Iranians or any other foreign body.

Diplomacy is the art of the rational man.
Seems we're lacking rational men these days.
War proves nothing, even when you 'win', you lose.
Things can be settled diplomatically BUT both sides have to rational.
What irks me is that with our current level of technology, there is no need for a ground war. It is all so pointless.

What has diplomacy gotten us. In Korea we are still in a state of war with families divided and not being allowed to see each other because the Diplomats decided on drawing a line and closing the border without anyone knowing it.

The middle east is the way it is today because the Diplomats divided up the Ottiman Empire after WWI and did not want any one group to have too much power. The Kurds were split between four countries, the Sheites were split between 2-3 countries, the Persions were forced to accept several minority groups to dilute their power.

A military Victory in Germany and Japan after WWII give us peace and prosperity in those two countries.

Don't tell me that diplomacy is the answer. Diplomacy only works wehn you have a strong military to back it up and enforce your treaties. Look at the UN not on successful diplomatic resolution to any world conflict with out the use of military forces and in many of those area you still have UN peace keeping forces.

As opposed to war? LMAO

The Korean Police Action (UN's Wording) was enforcing enforcing a Dipolomatic Solution to a problem and not a war.

The Marines Killed in Leabon were peace keeping not in a war.

Battle of Mogadishu where the US lost several solders doing what the UN and Diplomacy wanted them to do and then because of the Diplomatic and UN Rules more solders were put at risk. UN drivers would not let US Soldiers into personal Carriers because all the seats were taken by Prisoners and he would not overload his vehicle. This while the US soldiers were taking fire after capturing the prisoners as per UN request. Then the UN talked to this warlord and he said he would allow aid shipments to go through but only if his men delivered the food. The UN let them go and the Warlord took food for his army and gave some to the starving people who supported him. To refresh your memory this is where they dragged the bodies of US Service men through the streets and we were not allowed to reclaim the bodies by using force.

Peace works best when you have a strong army to back it up. Words alone will not work

I'm seeing your point. Great info, it helped in me understanding what you meant exactly. Hummm, you gave me a lot to think about. THANKS!

Americans have not had a say in anything for quite some time, if the government says Draft, then it will happen.

I agree that the worst thing this country could have done was reduce Military Personnel and decommission Military Bases.

I never said my son is too good to fight for this country. If we were invaded on US soil, then both of us would fight for this country. As it is, the Iraq War is illegal.

I'm glad you are proud of your sons. However, they are not fighting for MY freedom or MY safety. Iraq is not and never has been a threat to my freedom or safety.

I added a comment to the wrong area, sorry.

The only one who is taking away my freedoms is the US government.

Hello Bobmnu,

If it's not too much trouble, will you please thank both of your sons for me? And, let them know that a perfect stranger is so proud, and so very appreciative of them both? Thanks!

I suppose that is the ultimate goal, but since everyone wants that, the fighting will continue.

Men have always been in the military and they have no choice, when the government says Go To War, they have to go whether they want to or not. Why would women be given the choice?
The point of the Draft is there we are not given a choice.