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If God can perform miracles, why doesn't He heal amputees? email this discussion to a friend?

djhybrid (80)4 months ago

I just got done watching a youtube video that asked this question and I just couldn't for the life of me think of an answer. Perhaps one of the intelligent Christians here can help me.

 
 
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1. myLot reputation of 97/100. travibabiesgirl (986)   4 months ago

I really don't have an answer. I think that God has his reasons for not fixing some things. He could cure cancer, fix amputees, cure any and all things that cause death, I just think that maybe there is a reason he don't. I think everything happens for a reason and all though we may not know what that reason is when the time is right we will know then.


djhybrid (80)  4 months ago

So, what you're saying is that God's actions can not be explained until we at his doorstep?


myLot reputation of 97/100. travibabiesgirl (986)  4 months ago

I believe that sometimes we get our answers before we get we get to his door step. Not always but sometimes. I think when he feels it is the right time he will reveal the answers be it here or in heaven.


djhybrid (80)  4 months ago

Do you think the answers that God keeps to himself until we are in His presence unattainable to those who go to Hell?

Or do you think the Devil would explain just the same as God would?


myLot reputation of 97/100. travibabiesgirl (986)  4 months ago

I don't believe that the devil will answer the questions he after all is not God. He don't hold the power that God does. All I know for sure is that I received my answers and I know why things happened in my life the way they did. I had lessons to learn and God had other plans for my life.


myLot reputation of 89/100. owlwings (2385)  4 months ago

You are making some assumptions here, djhybrid, that not everyone would agree with. If it is convenient for you (or someone) to believe in a person called the Devil or Satan, and to accept the (relatively recent) Christian description of Hell as the way things are, then I doubt that I shall convince you (or anyone else) otherwise.

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2. myLot reputation of 69/100. Matthammer (172)   4 months ago

I would imagine for the same reason he doesn't stop war, crime, famine, natural disasters, murder, genocide etc etc.

Lets look at it theoretically. If the bible is to be believed, god created the world then the human race. In time he sent his son along to carry on his work ... and ... well he was crucified.
To recap ... God gives world and life. That which he gave takes the life of his son.

If the bible is not your flavour and you consider the big bang theory, then God doesn't really hold much weight and we have to look to the day when medicine can evolve to the point of an absolute heal. To be fair, the treatment for amputees has come a long way over the last decade.

Hmm this has turned into a bit of a babbled response. I guess thats what happens late at night trawling the questions with no response. Now i'm in the mood to watch Life of Brian again ...


djhybrid (80)  4 months ago

Medicine has come a very long way. I read in the news that an American cut off the tip of his finger (from the final joint) and that it "grew back" - it wasn't reattached - after he underwent treatment. Apparently, there exists a new powder that has the ability to regenerate if it is applied promptly.


myLot reputation of 89/100. owlwings (2385)  4 months ago

I read that story, too, and there was some serious doubt about some of the aspects of it, I believe. As I recall, the guy's brother gave him this powder to put on it and it supposedly 'regenerated'. The doubt, I think, lay in just how much of the tip was cut off. One shouldn't take everything one reads in the press (or the Bible) as literal truth.

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3. myLot reputation of 89/100. owlwings (2385)   4 months ago

If He had wanted us to be lizards or worms, I guess He would have made us such.

This is just another of the "If God is so all-powerful, why doesn't He ..." which assume that God is made in the image of Man and would see things the way we see them.

The only real answer is that God is, well, God (or whatever you want to call Him/Her/It). We are told that we are 'made in His image', which doesn't mean that He also has two legs, two arms and so on! The 'image' that is meant (poetically) is that, like Him, we are spiritual beings and seem to be able to communicate with Him (if we get it right, which isn't all the time, and can seem incomprehensible to someone who hasn't yet met Him.)

I hope I am preaching to the converted but, if you want to meet Him, then you only have to ask - in your heart. When you are ready (and have puzzled long enough over silly notions like growing new limbs and why there are such things as earthquakes and typhoons), He will be there like a shot.


djhybrid (80)  4 months ago

I find your ignorance when you refer to "silly notions like growing new limbs" as quite amusing. If you read my response above then you may be quite surprised to learn that science and medicine isn't so silly.


myLot reputation of 89/100. owlwings (2385)  4 months ago

Science and medicine are one thing (and I agree that it is possible to grow tissue in the laboratory which can be used to repair, for example, a badly damaged face) but my point is that these things are not in the natural order. We do NOT spontaneously grow back amputated limbs though it is quite feasible that medical science may eventually be able to construct them.

You have missed the point, of course (or ignored it - which is the true meaning of ignorance), which is that whether a man has a limb or not is unimportant in terms of his spiritual development.


myLot reputation of 89/100. owlwings (2385)  4 months ago

I notice that I didn't really deal with your question as asked: "IF God can perform miracles ..."

A lot of these questions have a habit of starting like this. First I'd ask you to define a miracle? Then I'd ask "is God's concept of a 'miracle' the same as yours? (and how would you know that?)" and "Have you actually witnessed (yourself) what you would define as a 'miracle'?"


myLot reputation of 69/100. Matthammer (172)  4 months ago

I think it is human nature to question that which we either do not understand or believe. If an individual is a staunch believer of God and the bible, then their questions are not likely to be on this topic. An atheist by contrast is more than likely to raise biblical questions.

As an individual i have my own beliefs and i do not pass judgegment on the belief of others as it is their choice.

I do not believe that the question of earthquakes and the like are silly notions. They are explained by science as the phenomenon of a natural disaster. If there exists an almighty presence, he/she has no control over such an occurence. The formation of the earth itself could also be deemed a natural disaster. The organisms occupying that particular space in the universe were potentially wiped out by the creation of the earth.

I also find it surprising that one should seemingly mock the original question by the statement of "puzzling over silly notions like growing new limbs". To you i'm sure that is a silly notion.
As you ask for definition of what is a miracle, i wonder what we reliably class as a silly notion?
Do we class something that sounds like a futuristic movie event such as the regrowth of limbs, a magician that turns water to wine, a shaman that cures the blind by his touch, or perhaps a cinematic treat of a wooden vessel carrying hundreds of animals.

This post was not created to mock any belief but to indicate the similarity between us all. We all have questions and we are all entitled to our own answers and beliefs.

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4. gwamster (24)   4 months ago

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djhybrid (80)  4 months ago

I agree in part with your words. The movie Zeitgeist is a real eye opener and a must see for all Christians. Anyone else seen this movie?

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5. myLot reputation of 72/100. TheCarter (248)   4 months ago

God made the world. God made man. God put man over the world, his primary duty and obligation to dress it and keep it. You following me here? The next part is important. Jesus came as Chief Ambassador and Son of the Most High God. When he people came to Him He did miracles of such a multitude that they are still talking about them today. Maybe the key is not that we wait for God to do, but that we find Him where He is and go to Him and ask for the healing until He gives it. Examine the Gospels and tell me what they say. I am curious too.;-)


djhybrid (80)  4 months ago

Where doesn't there remain any evidence of Jesus' miracles?


myLot reputation of 72/100. TheCarter (248)  4 months ago

Are you saying that you don't believe the thousands of eyewitness accounts and discredit them all as what folklore? You're worst than the US government. OHHHHHHH!!! I said that buddy. UUhhhh! LOL JK. Really what do you mean?


djhybrid (80)  4 months ago

I mean there exists no physical evidence of Jesus' miracles.


gwamster (24)  4 months ago

Are you saying, The Carter, that your don't believe the thousands of eyewitness accounts of Islam and Mohamed?

You seem to be as picky as your God.

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6. myLot reputation of 81/100. TheSpy (3383)   4 months ago

Hi DJ:

We all are here to experience different thinks and pay back our debts through karma.

You should read a book called, "Why Bad Things Happen To Good People," I think you'll find your answer there.

Have a gread evening.

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7. myLot reputation of 71/100. Palmerhusky (586)   4 months ago

i noticed a lot of "I don't knows" and a whole bunch of answers that don't make any sense. but the explanation is rather simple actually.

The first human pair was given a commandment not to eat of a certain tree of the garden. the were essentially told by God "that mine, don't touch" they disobeyed and by doing so sin was introduced into the human family and they became imperfect. but the one that started the whole thing in the fist place, who later became called Satan the Devil, had also challenged God right and quality of rule.

that being the case once Adam and Eve began having children that imperfection was passed to them genetically and eventually down to us. this is why we get sick, have things that happen to us that requires us to lose limbs and so forth.

now the reason why we are still like this is due to that challenge that i mentioned before. thats recorded in Genesis 3:1-6. Time has been alloted to him to prove that under his direction human rule will benefit them more than God ruling them. Which is clearly a lost cause. 6000 years of human history and we still have problems with the governments cause they simply cant rule properly.

but we were certainly not created to be like this. in fact scientists cant even explain why we grow old in the first place. according to their findings we shouldn't even be dieing.

now he is going to do something about this. but that in of itself is a whole different discussion that I'm not going to tackle here. but thats the simplest explanation that can be given.

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8. myLot reputation of 56/100. jdyrj777 (730)   4 months ago

When he does it will b a perfect world. A day when death will be no more. neither will mourning nor out cry of pain. That is what we pray when we pay this way,"Jah kingdom come, Jah will be done on earth as it is in heaven." Amen. Thanks and praises b 2 the most high Jahovah, forever n ever. Amen.


myLot reputation of 56/100. jdyrj777 (730)  4 months ago

We r in the time of the end now. Paridise soon come.


gwamster (24)  4 months ago

When will paradise "soon come" buddy?

I have a flatemate who believes the world will end very soon, a matter of 10 - 20 years, and I asked her if I can give her a call when shes on her death bed to give her a chance to say she was mistaken. She of course said I could, but it would never happen.

After I phone her, can I call you to ask if the world has ended as you said it will?


myLot reputation of 56/100. jdyrj777 (730)  4 months ago

I have faith in Jahovah. It will be when ever He says. As i pray for this time to come i will include you. Jah love and guide. Bless you.


gwamster (24)  4 months ago

So, you dont know when the end will come?
But you want it to come soon?
And what about all the "unbelievers"?
Hell will be quite a full place if the end comes "soon"?

You can believe what you want, my fellow human, just don't infringe on others' happiness and please leave the children alone, they have too many fairy tales already to keep up with.

Very nice of you to include me in your prayers. You are the 4th person to say that. If the power of God changes my mind and I become a "believer" because of all the prayers, I'll let you know, believe me.

But I'll also let you know in a few decades if the world is still going on.


myLot reputation of 56/100. jdyrj777 (730)  4 months ago

It seems you have little faith. I do believe it is our duty to teach the children. It's what Jesus did and so will i. Jah love and guide.

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9. myLot reputation of 20/100. qwedloki100 (101)   4 months ago

Becuase it's God's will and His Diviness have his own reasons too holy for us human ears. (sarcasm)

But really, I don't know.

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10. myLot reputation of 68/100. Kierstal (129)   3 months ago

It's amusing to me how many of the responses in this post don't answer your question as much as they avoid it by preaching about how great God is.

The fact that there hasn't been a single amputee that's grown a new limb by God's Grace(tm) - among other things - is proof to me that he either doesn't exist, or is NOT the loving omnipotent deity that people like to think.

Think about it. People have a disturbing habit of attributing all good things that happen to or around them to the works of God, and all bad things to the devil. If someone's cancer goes into recession, "God did it!" if they have a relapse... "They must have rejected God!".

You can't have it both ways. You can't say that "God will heal you if you trust and believe in him (and don't forget to give money to the church while you're at it!", and then when faced with something that HAS NEVER been cured by 'God' say, "It's not in God's plan to heal".

If god DOES exist, then there has to be a good reason why he doesn't heal his faithful amputee followers when he apparently helps people fight cancer, HIV, mono, etc. every day. Have you noticed that the amount of people being "healed by god" is almost directly proportional to the medical breakthroughs being made in the field of the afflictions that are healed? Have no doubt, when Science figures out how to grow and successfully attach new limbs to amputees, the blind and ignorant will attribute that success to God as well, and not the REAL PEOPLE who worked hard for many, many years.

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