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myLot reputation of 92/100. freedomg (524)   ranked 36 out of 248 in saving money4 months ago

O.k I'm 31 and have never had the $ to start any sort of savings before. Heck I was lucky to keep my lights on half the time. Well now we are doing a little better and I want to start saving for retirement. I know if it weren't for living with me my poor dad would have had to work until the day he died and I don't want to end up like that. So I'm trying to learn about investing. (we aren't doing good enough to afford the pros yet).
What do you do to save for the future if you are doing anything yet?

 
 
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1. Juduka (93)   ranked 136 out of 248 in saving money   4 months ago

I've read lots of tips on investing and given a fair share of them aswell. Bear with me. This might turn out to be a long post.

First of all, congratulations on making this post to seek financial education. Financial education is something especially the author Kiyosaki often speaks of. That is a great place to start. Knowing and understanding economics will certainly strengthen your financila situation.

There are many places to invest in accounts, funds, stocks, building a business of your own and yourself.
I like the last one greatly. In this exciting times it's good to know that you can always create new wealth. I have a couple of friends who are very worried about losing their money... But there is no reason to worry if you know won't lose it for long;)
So classes to better yourself, learn new traits, languages, professions and skills can be priceless. Self development should be a lifelong process.

Building a business and investing in it is one, but I won't go to that at this this discussion.

Stocks are my favourite. You get to buy a part of the company, sharing in it's profits. One smart thing to consider in buying stocks is that you actually do become an owner and a shareholder of the company and at least in Finland corporate governance dictates that corporations must hold annually a shareholders meeting and usually the owners (that would mean you) want to have a great time so excellent servings are also included. I myself have made a long time ago an invesment of some 800 euros to a real estate company and so far it has offered me two meals at the price of 100 euros at least and dividends worth 400 euros. Not a bad invesment so far;)
Always buy to own. Trading with small amounts of stock/cash will not get you anywhere.

Funds are an easy way to diversify. But I dislike them. All sorts of hidden expenses and lack of control. I prefer to know where my money is.

Accounts for short term can be a smart investment. Make sure you're getting more in interest that the inflation is! I never keep amount bigger than 1000 euros laying around in my bank account.

How to choose investments then?
Well buy to own. What companies do you like? Are they doing good? Improving service? Would you like to work for them? Choose companies you know about.

Long text. I could go on for hours about the subject. If you want to know more, or links to great resources, drop me a PM.


myLot reputation of 92/100. freedomg (524)   ranked 36 out of 248 in saving money  4 months ago

OMG great post. Thank you. I will be sending you a friend request. Please add me I would love to talk to you more. What do you think about CD's?


myLot reputation of 92/100. freedomg (524)   ranked 36 out of 248 in saving money  4 months ago

P.S. I have my associates degree in commercial and graphic arts and will be starting classes in medical billing and coding in Aug. so I totally agree when it comes to investing in yourself and having many trades to fall back on.


myLot reputation of 74/100. wearmanyhats (100)   ranked 180 out of 248 in saving money  4 months ago

Please watch out for the CD investments these days. We've had three banks go under in our little area here, unheard of since the 30's. They'll be offering great rates, but who knows what their books look like. Even our local bank, which is just completely conservative is struggling.

I disagree with anyone saying to invest in stocks right now unless it's into something like a commodity ETF. You are in no position yet to navigate those waters. Buying Coke or P&G could still bite because our market is dropping.

I recommend reading a great deal before you start. There are a couple of online newsletters that are better than others. First is Money and Markets, although I never invest in any of their recommendations without thoroughly studying them. They are good to tell you the trends in the economy. The other is Early to Rise and, finally, the Day of Reckoning. These writers will help you steer a pretty good course. I don't always agree with them, but they broaden your back ground and help educate you.

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2. myLot reputation of 92/100. creationsbyrobin (1180)   ranked 1 out of 248 in saving money   4 months ago

It wouldn't be a mistake to open a Roth IRA either. You make post tax contributions to your account (which means you only pay taxes on the interest you earn with the account) and you can use a Roth for some investments, real estate, etc.
A Roth is a great investment tool and unlike a 401K, you can borrow the money you've put into it, without penalties and taxes.


Juduka (93)   ranked 136 out of 248 in saving money  4 months ago

That's an American thing is it?
Sounds smart enough. You can borrow money put in, but can you also get out the interest on a ROTH?


myLot reputation of 92/100. freedomg (524)   ranked 36 out of 248 in saving money  4 months ago

Thank you very much. I think that will be one I will for sure have to look into.


myLot reputation of 92/100. creationsbyrobin (1180)   ranked 1 out of 248 in saving money  4 months ago

You can take out the interest, but it is taxable. The money that a person puts into the fund has already been taxed, therefore can be used anytime, for anything.
Roth IRA's do have some great investment benefits built into the program and it's just one great way to save some money for retirement... money that can be invested as a fund, to earn faster than a straight savings account.

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3. myLot reputation of 92/100. ch88ss (921)   ranked 69 out of 248 in saving money   4 months ago


I don’t have any savings, but I manage to get lucky and worked for a company that offer 401K and so I just squeeze it and put the money into 401k and hoping that the money will still be there when I retire.

Though I fear the worse, but it is the best I can do right now.

I already cannot depend on the social security because of the ways the economy is going.


Juduka (93)   ranked 136 out of 248 in saving money  4 months ago

It's always smart to start gathering a nest egg of your own, so that you have more control over the money.

Do you plan to work rest of your life for the same company?


myLot reputation of 92/100. freedomg (524)   ranked 36 out of 248 in saving money  4 months ago

Is it one of those 401K plans that roll over to the new company if you change jobs?


myLot reputation of 92/100. ch88ss (921)   ranked 69 out of 248 in saving money  4 months ago

Yes it is. It follows you where ever you go.

Most companies will match your contribution, for example if you put one dollar into that account, some companies will match that so you end up with $2 in your account.
However after 9/11 many offers started offering a smaller match.

Some offer you to match 50 only. The contribution is before tax so you pay less taxable income.
But it also means less money on your check, it is an easy way to save. The money is then put into an investment account or interest earned Certificate of deposit. Which accrue interest and values over the years.

You cannot withdraw this money until you reach retirement age. Or if you choose to withdraw, you pay a tax penalty for early withdrawal.

Hope you find this information helpful.


myLot reputation of 92/100. freedomg (524)   ranked 36 out of 248 in saving money  4 months ago

My hubby has one that does match after you put in a certain amount and up to another amount. I have no clue what those amounts are though. I do know that many times I have heard that a 401K just isn't enough anymore. I'm trying to learn but it all reads like a different language to me.

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4. myLot reputation of 99/100. mentalward (1789)   ranked 193 out of 248 in saving money   4 months ago

I know absolutely nothing about investing, but wanted to share this little tidbit. When I inherited some money, I put it in a Money Market account right away. They have MUCH better interest rates than a regular savings account. Once you decide where you want to invest, you'll have a little bit more to do it with.

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5. myLot reputation of 92/100. creationsbyrobin (1180)   ranked 1 out of 248 in saving money   4 months ago

Here's the thing about 401K accounts...Uncle Sam does not have his piece of your money...yet! And should Uncle Sam want to raise tax rates, he can take a bigger bite out of your nest egg than you planned on.
The government also tells you that you need to start withdrawing on the account at a certain age...remember, Uncle Sam wants his cut. Even if you haven't retired, you must start diluting your 401K account and continue taking money OUT every year after!
With a 401K account, if the company doesn't match, you are better off saving your money elsewhere, Roth IRA, stock market, etc.
If your company matches only to a certain amount, contribute until you reach that amount and when your company stops matching, consider a Roth or the market.
A 401K could be a good investment, but if you are younger, in your late 20s, early 30s, who knows what happens when the largest segment of the Baby Boomers are forced to begin withdrawing from their 401Ks. (and of course begins collecting Social Security)

It is a good thing to begin saving for your future, just look into all the options that are out there. The earlier you begin saving, the better off you'll be when it comes time to retire.


myLot reputation of 92/100. freedomg (524)   ranked 36 out of 248 in saving money  4 months ago

Thank you. I am trying to learn about the different options out there. That was sort of the reason behind this post. I wanted to see what other people pop up with then I can research it.
The company does match our 401K so we thought it would be a good idea. My grandfather keeps telling me to get cd's.


myLot reputation of 74/100. wearmanyhats (100)   ranked 180 out of 248 in saving money  4 months ago

It's so good to see your interest in saving for your retirement at a young age because you have then the power of time to manage your much needed assets into wealth for when you get older.

What everyone gave you advice on above is good. But I've been investing for the past twenty years, and I will tell you something very sobering: I believe that for the year, perhaps two, a young person like you would be best to just ammass capital in a good brokerage account and wait until the economy and general feeling about the economy starts to turn around. If you do not work for a company with a 401k, then opening a Roth IRA is a great way to start saving for the future.

Also, I think investing in a variety of investments depends on what is happening in the world economy. I would take a couple of mentors that you really agree with and use their advice to help you. My father is my mentor, and it has paid off handsomely. If you want, you can add me in at your site and I'd be willing to mentor you by answering questions.

Do you know how to set up a brokerage account? Please look at all your options for setting up a retirement account and remember that you don't have to pay anyone to have one. Suggestions: Fidelity, Schwab, etc. Good luck!

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6. myLot reputation of 92/100. MH4444 (1319)   ranked 176 out of 248 in saving money   4 months ago

Take 10 percent of every check and set it aside in a savings account. Put that in a CD at the bank once you have enough to start one and when that matures: divide and re-invest into two cd's repeat this process until you have enough to take some risks.

If you work has a retirement plan then get that into something that is actually earning money. Zero risk.

Hope that helps.
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myLot reputation of 92/100. freedomg (524)   ranked 36 out of 248 in saving money  4 months ago

Thanks it does. I'm looking for a good interest rate on cd's right now.


myLot reputation of 92/100. MH4444 (1319)   ranked 176 out of 248 in saving money  4 months ago

Sounds like you are right on track then.
Best wishes on your future. thumbup

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7. myLot reputation of 90/100. MsTickle (6046)   ranked 169 out of 248 in saving money   4 months ago

Hello...Firstly, open up a special savings account. If you can get one that rewards you for deposits if you make no withdrawals, that would be good. I'm guessing you already have a budget...it's imperative that you have a budget and stick to it. You might have to go without a few things at first but it's your long term goals your heading for.

Make a long term goal...like you want to invest $1000 dollars in a year. Break that down into months or weeks and put away as much as you need to reach your goal. If you can do better than a thousand, go for it. Keep it simple though and don't overstretch yourself.

Also remember you cannot have it all. You cannot drive a fancy car, go on holidays, buy the latest fashions, or indulge in beauty treatments or fancy haircuts, watch the newest release movies and do takeaway or eat out every week.

Good luck


myLot reputation of 92/100. freedomg (524)   ranked 36 out of 248 in saving money  4 months ago

We are very thrifty people. If we go out on holiday we go camping, and the cars are used,as for eating out we very rarely do it. We are trying to keep our lives as simple as we can. And I do the families haircuts always have.Our main thing is that I am a stay at home mom so we are doing everything on a single income, but I really need to be at home with the kids for many reasons.
I will look into a savings account that does the rewards for no wihtdrawls I didn't know those were out there. Thanks.


myLot reputation of 90/100. MsTickle (6046)   ranked 169 out of 248 in saving money  3 months ago

It's the only way to go...thriftyness I mean. The best of things are still free but it still must be hard for you if you have children at school. The pressure on people to spend! spend! spend! these days is obscene.
Even a tiny saving of one or two dollars is something and it will add up. If nothing else, it will be there for an emergency. Some short term investments can be made with as little as $500...the secret is to keep it rolling over and letting it grow. I don't know how old your kids are but encourage them now to look for paying jobs when they can. People who learn these saving techniques and work ethics are the ones who are successful in life...then your kids can give you a stately old age... lolthumbup

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8. myLot reputation of 94/100. snowy22315 (5096)   ranked 194 out of 248 in saving money   4 months ago

CDs are always a safe thing to do if you have some extra money. You dont make alot of money on them but it is a safe investment and you cant lose anything. Sometimes individuals at your bank or credit union can be helpful in that regard.


myLot reputation of 92/100. freedomg (524)   ranked 36 out of 248 in saving money  4 months ago

Thanks for your post.

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9. myLot reputation of 97/100. saivenkaat802003 (2916)   ranked 201 out of 248 in saving money   4 months ago

I have some savings which i am making for the past 15 years since i got a job.. some of it is in the form of Insurance,, and some in the form of deposits.. and some in Saving bank account.

But i wish.. i must increase the savings per month so that i can have a good and happy retired life.


myLot reputation of 92/100. freedomg (524)   ranked 36 out of 248 in saving money  3 months ago

Yeah I did some research and found that if I hope to retire comfortably wiht my hubby then I need to be saving about $400 a month. That's a lot for me as we are living off one income and then what ever I make online is what I save. I do not make any where near that much a month online.

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10. myLot reputation of 93/100. indianpedi (1163)   ranked 130 out of 248 in saving money   4 months ago

I know this isn't what you'd do to save and invest but I thought I may as well write about it because you might find it interesting in a way.
In India, the traditional ways to invest were in Gold jewelry and real estate. For centuries, we have been doing just that and many of us continue to do it still!
Indian women are very fond of wearing gold ornaments and necessarily wear a necklace of gold threaded with black beads, for all of their married lives. This custom is rigorously enforced in Indian Society even today.
Married (not married and widowed) women also need to wear bangles and earings and sometimes, noserings too, all the while.
So a woman is a walking safe deposit vault of the family, as it were!

Real estate is another favourite with us. Thos who can afford to, buy and own land and (several) houses and commercial premises.

Bank deposits are secondary forms of investment for us.
Stocks and shares, even rarer.


myLot reputation of 92/100. freedomg (524)   ranked 36 out of 248 in saving money  3 months ago

Wow you aren't afraid of someone robbing the women of the gold? I would love to invest in real estate but do not have the $ for that yet. Though I do like the jewelry idea. at least I would have a excuse to go shopping. I have a Vietnamese friend that buys gold in his country and then brings it here to sell it. The american dollar is worth a lot there and so he will buy these beautiful pieces for next to nothing and them sell it for 3 times the amount here. He has been doing this for years and only invested $500 in the beginning then just reinvests half of the money from the sales. The rest he puts in the bank. His wife says they are doing very well and she's loving the travel and shopping.
Thank you for sharing but I have a question. The necklace of gold threads with black beads, is this a symbol of being married like a wedding ring is here? What would happen should a woman not wear it? You know like it got broken,lost,stolen, or maybe she has a metal allergy and can't wear gold. I'm very curious about other cultures so I hop you don't mind the question.


myLot reputation of 93/100. indianpedi (1163)   ranked 130 out of 248 in saving money  3 months ago

It's a cultural thing with us that women are not robbed (in broad daylight at least) of all this gold jewelry that they adorn themselves with.
Yes.... the gold necklace with black beads is the equivalent to a wedding ring. A widow CANNOT wear it.

If a married woman doesn't wear it (and other things like ear rings etc, she is 'looked at' in different ways by Society.... with all possible evil innuendoes.
I mean, she'd really have to be a socially very strong person to carry this off (I did.... tells you something about me, in the process. But then I'm a professional with a very solid professional and educational background and modesty be damned, for anyone to dictate things to me. I'm an exception to the rule, in this country and in this Society. This type of non-compliance would be considered sacrilagenous in a woman).

This black-bead thing has got a pincer-like hold on the collective Indian Psyche, so much so that even Christian and Muslim married women wear them... I know you are going to find this hard to believe and digest!
But it's 100% true.

I'm giving you links to see this abomination (to my mind, it is what I blatantly call a YOKE.... a woman is being harnessed into marital labour.... yeah, I say such things and haven't got murdered for that, yet).

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myLot reputation of 92/100. freedomg (524)   ranked 36 out of 248 in saving money  3 months ago

Thank you for sharing this. I had never thought about it before but I guess every culture had their "trappings" that are often imposed on the women. My hubby recently told me that he was upset that I had taken off my wedding ring but after I explained that I had gained some weight and the rings were hurting me. Many people though have made comments though that I should deal with the discomfort. They can kiss my big toe. I am happy to hear that you have been able to live as you have chosen as well as been able to speak your mind with out getting shot.
That being said I am all for those that choose to wear the necklace of their own free will but I will never condone a person being forced to do anything. My birth name is Freedom and so is my (and every other persons) birth right. Stay strong and true to yourself. thumbup


myLot reputation of 93/100. indianpedi (1163)   ranked 130 out of 248 in saving money  3 months ago

Yeah... that's the way to BE!

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