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myLot reputation of 68/100. anniepa (5886)   ranked 219 out of 3,872 in politics4 months ago

I wonder what the right would be saying if it had been revealed that Michelle Obama had charged over 3/4 of a MILLION dollars on credit cards in ONE MONTH; I have a feeling that would serve as proof positive the Obamas are elitists who are out of touch with the average American, don't you? I mean, haven't the McCains already accused them of just that anyway?

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However, it's Cindy McCain who racked up over $500,000 on one credit card and $250,000 on another in one month recently while one of her children has been carrying a balance of $50,000 or more on yet another card. They've also spend over $11 million on five condominiums for the family and hired additional household help.

Perhaps it could be argued that it's not required for the President to be poor but under the circumstances is it really smart politics to be accusing Obama of being out of touch with the working class as McCain and his surrogates such as Karl Rove, who recently compared Obama to the "guy at the country club...making snide remarks..." have been doing?

Can YOU really relate to the McCain family?
Annie

 
 
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tags:  john mccain, credit cards, cindy mccain, barack obama, mitchelle obama
 
1. redbutterfly20 (92)   ranked 2,323 out of 3,872 in politics   4 months ago

The man grew up herding goats and he is an elitist?? Carl Rove, Bill Oreilly, and all the other Repugnantcans are absolutely pathetic.


myLot reputation of 47/100. Taskr36 (2398)   ranked 347 out of 3,872 in politics  4 months ago

I believe he was called an elitist due to his remarks about small town americans clinging to guns and religion in their voting. Where did you hear that he grew up herding goats? I didn't even know they had goatherders in Hawaii.


redbutterfly20 (92)   ranked 2,323 out of 3,872 in politics  4 months ago

I read it in a blog, and now that I searched it, it wasn't him but his father. I really don't believe he is an elitist for those remarks. I mean, I don't want to sound hard but that is what many people believe that don't live in the South.


redbutterfly20 (92)   ranked 2,323 out of 3,872 in politics  4 months ago

He was just trying to explain their resentment over jobloss. Which is really true, in those areas they aren't as accepting of other types of people. Here in California we embrace everyone.


myLot reputation of 47/100. Taskr36 (2398)   ranked 347 out of 3,872 in politics  4 months ago

I figured the goat herder thing was an honest mistake. People interpreted his comments differently of course, but it was those comments that got people to call him elitist. It really had very little to do with his finances. I know there are people who agreed with what he said, but when a rich man, who doesn't live amongst those people makes that kind of a judgment, it's going to be interpreted as him putting himself above them regardless of whether it is partially true or not.

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2. myLot reputation of 92/100. lloydanthony111 (1124)   ranked 191 out of 3,872 in politics   4 months ago

This is amazing. The same bulb must have went off in our heads when we heard this story.

If Mitchelle Obama would have racked up these types of charges in one month, we wouldn't hear the end of this story.

Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Laura Ingram and Bill O'Reily wouldn't be able to sleep at night.

There claims of Barack Obama being elistist just show how hypocritical and out of touch they are.

Lloyd


myLot reputation of 68/100. anniepa (5886)   ranked 219 out of 3,872 in politics  4 months ago

I can't help myself - "mega-dittos"! I can hear them now! They'd try to get all of her receipts and attack everything she had bought no matter what it was. We'd hear all about how she couldn't manage money so obviously neither could her husband not to mention more about how elitist she is. What a joke.
Annie


myLot reputation of 92/100. lloydanthony111 (1124)   ranked 191 out of 3,872 in politics  4 months ago

I AGREE.

Lloyd

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3. myLot reputation of 97/100. deebomb (7016)   ranked 754 out of 3,872 in politics   4 months ago

last month Mrs. McCain flew into postwar Kosovo on a mission to clear land mines. It was the latest of several trips she has made in recent years as part of a detonation team. She also supports the charity arranging the trips by serving on its board and making donations.

She started the Hensley Family Foundation, largely committed to children's causes,

In 1991, Mrs. McCain came across a girl in an orphanage in Bangladesh. Mother Teresa implored Mrs. McCain to take the baby with a severe cleft palate; the senator's wife did so without first telling her husband. The couple adopted the girl, named her Bridget, and has seen her through some dozen operations to repair her cleft palate and resolve other medical problems.

These days, Mrs. McCain is active in charities specializing in war-ravaged and developing countries. This summer, Mrs. McCain will join an overseas mission of Operation Smile, a charity she has long supported that travels the world to perform corrective surgery on children's faces.

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Is it possible that these are some of the ways that Cindy McCain used her credit cards. Much easier than a check


myLot reputation of 92/100. lloydanthony111 (1124)   ranked 191 out of 3,872 in politics  4 months ago

Hi Deebomb. Thanks for that information. It is possible that she racked up these charges for those important causes.

However, her credit card bills peaked between January 2007 and May 2008.

Hopefully the details of her spending will become public.

I know if it were Mitchelle Obama, she would have to disclose those charges.

Lloyd


myLot reputation of 47/100. Taskr36 (2398)   ranked 347 out of 3,872 in politics  4 months ago

Thank you for adding that to the discussion deebomb. I think McCain's opponents just want to believe she spends all her money on shoes and jewelry.


myLot reputation of 97/100. deebomb (7016)   ranked 754 out of 3,872 in politics  4 months ago

I admire her for being a hands on person instead of throwing money at the problems.

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4. myLot reputation of 71/100. suspenseful (12788)   ranked 82 out of 3,872 in politics   4 months ago

It depends on what she used the credit cards for. If she used them to buy diamond necklaces and fancy homes, and expensive dinners, then anyone would be mad, but if she used them for a good cause such as charity, helping the homeless, and stuff like that, then that would be all right.
Besides she may also use the credit cards rather than pay cash or check to have proof of them in case she finds out that one of the charities was a scam and she needs the receipt. If Michelle Obama was supporting a cause like the African American College Fund and someone said he represented them and was a scam artist, she would want proof as well.
Besides do they have to make themselves poor to make you feel better. You do not become president if you have hardly any money. The days of Abraham Lincoln have gone.


myLot reputation of 68/100. anniepa (5886)   ranked 219 out of 3,872 in politics  4 months ago

It really isn't the point of her spending the money but it's the hypocrisy of calling the Obama's "out of touch". What's that saying about those who live in glass houses? I have no idea what she spent the money on but the clothing she wears on the campaign trail aren't bought off the rack, they're custom made by designers, or so I've heard it said and whether the credit cards were used for them or not they did buy FIVE new condos and hired new household help recently. I guess the Holiday Inn Express doesn't cut it for them when they're campaigning...lol!
Annie

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5. myLot reputation of 47/100. Taskr36 (2398)   ranked 347 out of 3,872 in politics   4 months ago

Simply having money doesn't make a person elitist. Nor does spending one's money. Here's the definition for anyone who's interested:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/elitist

Elitist is about a person's beliefs and attitudes towards other people. It has absolutely nothing to do with having or spending money unless you are actively saying or doing things to show you are superior to others because you have that money.

Obama was not called elitist for his finances. Most presidential candidates are swimming in money. He was called elitist because he has made statements that display an elitist attitude towards Americans in small towns.

I can't believe you guys are actually criticizing someone over the fact that they spend the money they have.


myLot reputation of 3/100. kennyrose (1126)   ranked 3,366 out of 3,872 in politics  4 months ago

Mrs Obama personal yearly income has been reported as being $316,000 she is a well educated attorney and attorney's make a whole lot of money twenty-four seven.
Cindy McCain and Mechelle Obama are both very wealth women,what either may charge in one month don't mean much more then that they both are very rich and personally responsible people with very handsome lines of credit.
I would guess they are not anything like the adverage hard working American nor the poor in American,these people pay off their credit cards month to month,because they can afford to.
Obama has been called an elitist because he in fact is an elites,he is most arrogant and high minded,extrely liberal accord to his own party. and I would think the blind could detect this by listening to Obama speak.
I for one in no way degrade the McCain's or the Obama's because they are very rich people,they have made their money by very hard work.
Cindy McCain was left a fortune and she has done so many very good things with her money,such as helping in large measures the poor and little children that need medical care all around the world.
John and Cindy McCain are the founders of a vast operation that pays for surgery for poor child,I think it called Smiles,something of that nature.
John and Cindy McCain fifteen years ago adopted a little girl from another country.
The little girl was dieing when Cindy McCain meet her,the McCain's filed for the child's adoption and it was granted to them,the girl today is health,happy and well enjoying high school under trhe loving watchfully care of her mother and father,John and Cindy McCain.
The McCain's have a son as we speak in Iraq and another son serving his country in the Navy.
The McCain's are true Americans that do love their country and with their riches they have gave freely to people in needed of human love,caring and concern,in American and around the world.
The Obama's it has been reorted gave large amounts of money to their pastor,mentor,uncle Jeremiah Wright as long time supporting members of the Trinity church in Chicago.
Barack Obama has gave to black base groups of different kinds,including radical muslin groups within his brotherhood.
In my opinion the McCain's have for many years identified with the hardships of Americans and people of other lands.
In regard to Barack Obama saying people in middle American cling to their guns and religion,it is rather strange for a proclaimed Christian to say about his brother and sister in the faith,but we must stay focused Obama was talking to another class of people in San Francisco,California.







myLot reputation of 68/100. anniepa (5886)   ranked 219 out of 3,872 in politics  4 months ago

I can only speak for myself but the reason I posted about this was because McCain has said repeatedly that Obama is "out of touch" with the average working American yet here he and his wife and kids are with at least 6 homes since they recently bought 5 and with at least one of their minor children having a credit card of over $50,000 for one month. Perhaps Cindy did use a large portion of that money for her charities and I do give her credit - no pun intended - for that.

About Obama's remarks, I know everyone has the right to take them as they choose regardless of what he himself has said he actually meant but I understood him perfectly before he gave any explanation and I'm from a small town in Pennsylvania and so are most of my friends and we all agree with him and know where he was coming from and didn't take him to be elitist or to think himself better than us! Hey, I could be wrong, it wouldn't be the first time, but I think the Obama's can relate to us more than the McCain's ever could.
Annie

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6. myLot reputation of 70/100. irishidid (1188)   ranked 1,722 out of 3,872 in politics   4 months ago

I take stories like this with a grain of salt. Are they really believable?

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7. myLot reputation of 95/100. heathcliff (260)   ranked 58 out of 3,872 in politics   4 months ago

Unfortunately, the Republicans don't have to worry about those kind of records. They know the poor and disenfranchised are more likely to flock to Obama, so showing him (and his wife) to be out of touch with the common man can hurt Obama's campaign. The same accusation doesn't affect McCain who is counting on the wealthier, traditional voter anyway. In fact, these details about the McCain family spending are likely to just make the traditional Republican voter like McCain that much more.
I don't know why it would be an issue to either party considering you would be hard pressed to argue any President is truly in touch with Poor to Middle America. Lincoln lived a relatively small-time life in his youth, but did any of them REALLY struggle?


myLot reputation of 47/100. Taskr36 (2398)   ranked 347 out of 3,872 in politics  4 months ago

Most politicians are out of touch with the common man. People who say otherwise are just lying to themselves. I think the reason republicans don't have to worry about those records is because they don't pretend to know what it's like to be the common man. Obama keeps pretending that he knows what it's like to struggle. He doesn't know. He has no idea. He's lived a privileged life where he's never had to hold down a real job like us average folk.

I actually researched many of the republican and democrat candidates this election and the only one I saw that could honestly understand what it's like to struggle was Mike Gravel (Democrat). Unfortunately he never had a shot at the nomination. The DNC gave him no support and CNN barely even let him attend the debates. When he did attend he got 5 minutes out of a 2 hour debate. CNN had already decided to help make Obama and Clinton the leaders for the democrats.

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