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myLot reputation of 93/100. ESKARENA1 (12094)   ranked 18 out of 959 in education4 months ago

I have recently heard politicians saying that they expect the needs of industry and commerce to dictate that each worker has a university degree by 2012. I got to thinking, doesnt this devalue degrees?
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1. myLot reputation of 93/100. mclendon (245)   ranked 812 out of 959 in education   4 months ago

This could devalue degrees in that you won't necessary be in a higher paying field or job because you have a college degree. I don't think it is true that everyone will need a traditional college education by 2012. I do think more and more jobs and industries will require more specialized training and knowledge.


myLot reputation of 93/100. ESKARENA1 (12094)   ranked 18 out of 959 in education  4 months ago

maybe that is the case, but someone is surely going to have to pay for that level of expertise? but who?


myLot reputation of 94/100. bunnybon7 (985)   ranked 892 out of 959 in education  4 months ago

yes, and if some are already hiring cheaper labor, no body wins. i sure hope your wrong cause we already have many americans that dont finish high school and are out of work because of that and the immegration issues.

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2. myLot reputation of 83/100. ajmccrary1986 (375)   ranked 802 out of 959 in education   4 months ago

No I don't agree. That's another reason why I don't like some of the companies that require the tentative employees to have experience before they hire them. It's just gotten worse.


myLot reputation of 93/100. ESKARENA1 (12094)   ranked 18 out of 959 in education  4 months ago

yes you are right, it is a cheap way of ensuring all employers are trained without the need for training yup looks like a scam to me

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3. myLot reputation of 91/100. zandi458 (1789)   ranked 37 out of 959 in education   4 months ago

It is good to have a university degree confirming that you're educated to a level high but it is only a piece of paper which doesn't guarantee you a well paying job. There are many jobless graduates out there who have spend a lot of money and time to pursue their dreams to get a degree.Too many graduates chasing too little job opportunities. Working experience is more worth than having a degree nowadays. The degree has become obsolete.

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4. myLot reputation of 97/100. derek_a (2756)   ranked 52 out of 959 in education   4 months ago

If everyone had a uni. degree, it would be like... so what? LOL


myLot reputation of 93/100. ESKARENA1 (12094)   ranked 18 out of 959 in education  4 months ago

yes, exactly, the so what brigade the who cares brigade, the whatevers of this world would have won

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5. myLot reputation of 86/100. youdontsay (2011)   ranked 794 out of 959 in education   4 months ago

A university degree is definitely not required for everyone to be successful. However, some kind of training is useful in nearly every job.

We might consider adding a thirteenth grade to our public school system to include some of the training that everyone needs to succeed in life, like problem solving, decision making, stress management, balancing a checkbook, making a budget, etc. Some schools have cut all that stuff out to get the kids ready to pass required tests of academic skills rather than to actually learn something useful.

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6. myLot reputation of 100/100. arkaf61 (4620)   ranked 297 out of 959 in education   4 months ago

AH... that's all well and nice, but is the government going to pay for it? It's fun how they say something like that while raising the costs of an university education.
As for devaluation of degrees, maybe, but probably not in a way that will be affecting anything that much.
Personally although I think that a university degree does not necessarily need to be a requirement for every worker, I would like to see everyone having the opportunity to have one.
In reality, I think what they will be looking for is some kind of specialization courses that would help each worker to do his/her job, so they spend less time training. What they're forgetting is that they will always spend time in training because that piece of paper might give knowledge but not experience.

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7. amit1975ch (45)   ranked 795 out of 959 in education   3 months ago

i don't think so that university degree is not necessary if u r working with some private organisation but some updates r required to compete in the global world if u want to engage with the ur govt then it is required

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8. myLot reputation of 91/100. CornishAustin (102)   ranked 550 out of 959 in education   3 months ago

The trouble with politicians within any Government is that they haven't really got much of a grasp on how their decisions affect reality. Some haven't lived a real life before they become a politician: some go to school, then get a degree and Masters in politics, then go on to write policies that mean naff all in reality. You do get, however, the odd gem that has actually had a working life before becoming involved with politics.

Education is an example of a political game: it's such an important part of our lives, yet the Government set and alter so many targets that they are failing to tell the difference between their heads and their rear ends. It's common sense that not everyone wants to go to University and I do not agree with everyone going to University. Everyone deserves a chance but they should not be forced into it, as such an experience is not for everyone.

If anything, as other people here have noted, highly skilled jobs should require some form of training and qualification, but not a degree.


myLot reputation of 93/100. ESKARENA1 (12094)   ranked 18 out of 959 in education  3 months ago

A great answer, you are so right, so many politicians make policy without experience of what they are doing. I often think that those who make social policy should first have to live under the programme they are in charge of. For example why shouldnt people who work with social housing first have to live in it? Also those who set the level of social security should first have to live on it. In other words inorder for anyone to have an opinion i feel they first should have experience, or shut up
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9. Scarrlet (97)   3 months ago

Such trend will definitely benefit more the employers but not those with the degree. As mentioned before, employers would incur less costs for offering additional training, and this is a globalist trend where companies are significantly reducing costs in the competition, and are pushing this reduction on the employees. On the other hand, less skilled jobs are becoming more advanced now, and require a cumulative number of tasks to be performed. As the result, a worker is not only engaged in doing one task, but is viewed as a part of all corporate process, and often as an important service provider. If degree requirement is to be implemented, it should be concentrated on business administration more.

 
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