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myLot reputation of 98/100. moolahmagnet (1859)   ranked 178 out of 12,650 in parenting4 months ago

I think they should be charged with criminal offense! For being irresponsible and endangering the future of their young ones! I am so miffed reading about one of myLotters entry about a poor couple having six children plus newborn twins!

In that part of the world, welfare doesn't exist, so kids end up malnourished and not having proper education. Public schools are free or used to, now I think they have to pay a minimal fee. There are about 60++ in one classroom and kids have to buy their uniforms, school supplies not to mention the everyday transportation fare and lunch. No, they don't get freebies from the government! And yeah, children end up peddling out on the streets to support their parents!

Someone mentioned that
"poor people have more kids because they realized that family friends and children are more important than having everything they want."

That's a lot of BS! It is a moral obligation that we nourish our children, give them chance to have a brighter future through education, how in the heck could that be possible if parents don't earn enough to put food on the table!


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1. Lukeios (63)   ranked 4,446 out of 12,650 in parenting   4 months ago


Are we talking about parents in third world countries having children? Or?


myLot reputation of 98/100. moolahmagnet (1859)   ranked 178 out of 12,650 in parenting  4 months ago

Yep, those in developing countries!


myLot reputation of 98/100. katsmeow1213 (1814)   ranked 193 out of 12,650 in parenting  4 months ago

Well honestly I'd say it's the same anywhere. Even here in the States, you shouldn't have more children than you can afford. I'm against the idea of people who are already on welfare having more children. The tax payers and working class pay for welfare, so basically we are raising these children, not their parents. Welfare is for those who find themselves in unfortunate situations, and I don't look down on people who NEED it, but if you're on it, you shouldn't have more children until you can afford to feed them yourself without governement aid.


myLot reputation of 98/100. moolahmagnet (1859)   ranked 178 out of 12,650 in parenting  4 months ago

I certainly agree on that!


myLot reputation of 95/100. mflower2053 (2134)   ranked 374 out of 12,650 in parenting  4 months ago

I agree I don't think people should have more kids if they are already on welfare. I know a couple of people that way. 1 just had her fourth child and the other is about to have her fourth and they are asking me when I am having another one but I'm not crazy like them I can't afford another one so I won't make another one.

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2. myLot reputation of 88/100. gem4678 (150)   ranked 1,876 out of 12,650 in parenting   4 months ago

I think this is a very sensative topic, because to a point I think that quote is right, generally the poor do value there family more that the rich, and they don't take things for granted, but yet you have a point. But of course the other problem is that it isn't generally on purpose, things happen and they except it and do the best they can with it. When you talk about other countries that dont have government aid, I think many times they don't always have the proper education to know how to prevent it or even if they do it doesn't always work. Also how many is too many for poor people many of them cant even afford to support themselves does that mean they should not be able to have children at all. Its such a grey area where would you draw the line, and I think thats the hardest thing here. But it is so sad to see children hurting and going hungry, but at the same time I can't imagine these kids never even having the chance of life at all. I don't know its a tough one, but good conversation starter.


myLot reputation of 18/100. Tallymommy (1796)   ranked 2,865 out of 12,650 in parenting  4 months ago

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myLot reputation of 18/100. Tallymommy (1796)   ranked 2,865 out of 12,650 in parenting  4 months ago

And yes, if you can't support yourself, you have no business bringing a child into the world, that is just irresponsible.


myLot reputation of 88/100. gem4678 (150)   ranked 1,876 out of 12,650 in parenting  4 months ago

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myLot reputation of 18/100. Tallymommy (1796)   ranked 2,865 out of 12,650 in parenting  4 months ago

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myLot reputation of 88/100. gem4678 (150)   ranked 1,876 out of 12,650 in parenting  4 months ago

I do understand that, which is were I think its a touchy area that at some point in time there is a point where people go too far, and it is sad. I understand that seeing these families must be very hard on you it is tough to see kids suffering when it is not there fault nor do they have any control over it.


myLot reputation of 95/100. dfollin (1390)   ranked 203 out of 12,650 in parenting  4 months ago

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3. myLot reputation of 18/100. Tallymommy (1796)   ranked 2,865 out of 12,650 in parenting   4 months ago

That quote makes me sick too, rich people don't love their children any less, sorry to the above poster, but that's a copout. They may just have a better job, it's up to parents to be responsible about having children...if you make more, you can afford to have more kids....we are waiting another year to get pregnant again because that is when we can afford to do so...I'd love to have one now, but can't afford it...what happens is the more kids, the more welfare...I work in the welfare system and see this all the time, tons of kids, and no one working....the welfare system needs a major overhaul...it's to help the poor, not to be a living in and of itself.


myLot reputation of 88/100. gem4678 (150)   ranked 1,876 out of 12,650 in parenting  4 months ago

I didn't say that they love there children more I have just seen in many situations where people who are poor value the little things more so they spend more quality time with there families. I am not saying that that is always the case, but I have seen many families with money that are too busy with other things to spend time with there kids, and I am not saying that it is always there fault, that is the decision they made. I remember growing up and we weren't rich but we were living pretty well financially, but my half sister's dad's side of the family were basically poor and I remember many times wishing that I had that family instead. I may have had material things but I just really wanted a loving family and parents that actually paid attention to me and spent time with me which is something my sister got a lot of with her dad. And I have seen things similar to this with others as well. And the welfare system is a different issue in its own I feel there are a lot of problems there and they make it way too easy I think for people to take advantage of it, I have seen it quite a bit.


myLot reputation of 18/100. Tallymommy (1796)   ranked 2,865 out of 12,650 in parenting  4 months ago

You said they tend to value them more, which is not true, they just have more money...which there is nothing wrong with.


myLot reputation of 88/100. gem4678 (150)   ranked 1,876 out of 12,650 in parenting  4 months ago

Maybe I am wording it wrong or we just aren't on the same vibe with the comments, I just mean and I hope this isn't taken wrong it is difficult to explain your feeling in words sometimes but that maybe some take things for granted no matter how much they may love them, so many people take things for granted every day and I'm not saying I am comletely exempt, but we live with regrets and we get so busy in our lives especially when we have the money to go out and do things that we turn around one day and our kids have grown up and moved on and we don't know when it happened. And we wish we had spent more quality time with them many times.


myLot reputation of 95/100. dfollin (1390)   ranked 203 out of 12,650 in parenting  4 months ago

I have seen that you do not have to be rich to have kids,but if you are so poor that it is going to effect the children's well being,then you need to not have them.


myLot reputation of 98/100. katsmeow1213 (1814)   ranked 193 out of 12,650 in parenting  4 months ago

I think what Gem is trying to say is the rich have many things to value in life, such as their success and booming careers and many possessions... poor have little valuables, so place ALL their value in their family. It's not really a difference in the amount of love.. but a difference in views and priorities.

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4. myLot reputation of 92/100. halynn (343)   ranked 2,406 out of 12,650 in parenting   4 months ago

I too think it's a very sensitive topic. I have a relative that has 4 kids & her & her husband doesn't make much $. Those children though have everything that they need including food & clothing. They just don't have a lot of the extras you know. They are VERY happy children. I decline to pass judgement on what others decide to do.


myLot reputation of 95/100. dfollin (1390)   ranked 203 out of 12,650 in parenting  4 months ago

I don't believe this converstaion is about being able to provide the kids with extra's.So long as they are taken care of properly then that is fine in my opinion.


myLot reputation of 92/100. halynn (343)   ranked 2,406 out of 12,650 in parenting  4 months ago

Yes, i agree w/u.


myLot reputation of 98/100. moolahmagnet (1859)   ranked 178 out of 12,650 in parenting  4 months ago

If parents can provide the ample necessities to their children, I don't think there's reason to complain about. But I am talking about parents who hardly have the earnings to provide for themselves and yet they have the audacity to bring children out into this world! They are the ones who generally breed children that end up in the streets!


myLot reputation of 90/100. MsTickle (6066)   ranked 1,386 out of 12,650 in parenting  3 months ago

I agree with you moolah, but how do you stop these people breeding. I think it is carelessness that creates new babies, not a love of children and big families. We have advertisements soliciting for people to adopt kids from 3rd world countries because their parents have abandoned them to go and find work....wtf is that about??!!!

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5. myLot reputation of 98/100. checapricorn (7540)   ranked 70 out of 12,650 in parenting   4 months ago

Hi moolah,

In our Country and in particular in the place where I grew up, there are couple who have 10 children and after Elementary, they can't support anymore for their studies..These kids look for a job and help the family and some also due to lack of education and lack of exposure to the world, will get pregnant early and life is a cycle in short...

I have seen them happy even if they have to measure the food that they will distribute to these 10 mouths plus the Father and Mother...

It's unfair to these kids but I can see that the parents itself seems to be unaware their full responsibilities....LIke for me, it seems that they do not know that they have to educate these kids and they have needs and wants that needs attention..

Most organizations extended their services to educate parents who are living in a remote places but the situation has been the same!


myLot reputation of 98/100. moolahmagnet (1859)   ranked 178 out of 12,650 in parenting  4 months ago

Your exactly right that some parents of poor families seem to be unaware of their full responsibilities. They just create so many babies thinking that perhaps they'd grow but as you said the cycle continues unless a child get smarter and learn from their parents irresponsibility!

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6. myLot reputation of 89/100. taface412 (836)   ranked 4,697 out of 12,650 in parenting   4 months ago

i don't know about charging with criminal offense, but I agree with you on the fact that people do not think before they act. Even if there is a welfare system set up to help out children born in poverty the people should be taught to respect, be educated, and be prepared. And I think it is horrible about how with the mention of abstinence most people either run and hide or they just laugh....that to me is ignorance. And many ignorant people have kids.

I do think I agree with one option....and I do believe somewhere here in the states one state tried to do it....if a woman has 2-3 children out of wedlock then she is required to be "fixed." It might sound a little barbaric, and I do not like governmental control over people, but if people are going to act stupid and think that in nine months everything will be fine and like you said barely have enough food to feed themselves....well. I say people need to wisen up.

And I am not against single parents. I most likely will be one one day, but if I do not get my life on track career-wise and I cannot financially support the child I am not going to have one alone thinking that the government is going to supplement my income for MY wishes.


myLot reputation of 98/100. moolahmagnet (1859)   ranked 178 out of 12,650 in parenting  4 months ago

If only more people would think like you, preparing yourself and the future of the kids, the world would have less victims of poverty and wayward kids. Thanks


myLot reputation of 95/100. dfollin (1390)   ranked 203 out of 12,650 in parenting  4 months ago

I have to agree they should be more educated to think before they have children.


myLot reputation of 89/100. taface412 (836)   ranked 4,697 out of 12,650 in parenting  4 months ago

I may be unrealistic but I think it mainly boils down to respect. And I am not saying people should hang up ever being a parent or bringing more kids into the world...Just to think about their life before they are here. But then again my parents worked very hard to keep us off that system when I was younger and now physcially they are paying for it. But they taught me much more than any degree could about life.

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7. myLot reputation of 87/100. barbie84 (2361)   ranked 837 out of 12,650 in parenting   4 months ago

it irritates me to death, you realy would have thought that after the first child they would have realised how they were concieved and how to prevent it, the stupidity of these people leaves me in disbelief


myLot reputation of 98/100. moolahmagnet (1859)   ranked 178 out of 12,650 in parenting  4 months ago

I am repulsed! So they come to your doorstep and beg for money or food because they can't feed their kids! People would give for the children but definitely if possible thump the parents' head with a hammer that'll probably shake their brains and bloody get real!

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8. omegapandor (8)   ranked 12,590 out of 12,650 in parenting   4 months ago

I agree. I think anyone who has more than two kids should be hanged. Personally, I would be okay if people who had any kids were hanged, but that is a bit extreme, and the human population would soon die out. . .which is ok with me.


myLot reputation of 98/100. moolahmagnet (1859)   ranked 178 out of 12,650 in parenting  4 months ago

Watdahek! LOL! No! We don't really want humanity to be wiped out in the face of earth. We only want little ones be protected and nurtured until they become useful adults themselves!


myLot reputation of 98/100. katsmeow1213 (1814)   ranked 193 out of 12,650 in parenting  4 months ago

Omega- so you would hang your own parents?

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9. myLot reputation of 88/100. Hayley_N (524)   ranked 3,922 out of 12,650 in parenting   4 months ago

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myLot reputation of 89/100. taface412 (836)   ranked 4,697 out of 12,650 in parenting  4 months ago

Health departments hand out condoms for free....and offer gynecological services as well as provide birth control...and there is a fee for the last 2...but if a girl thinks she is adult enough to do the deed she can get a job at MCD's to pay for the lower cost of health care or have her boyfriend pay....LOL

But seriously I know what you are saying, but economics is not the only reason. Because there are services here in America where teen pregnancy is an issue....and with these services it still happens.

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10. myLot reputation of 98/100. SamQuinn (761)   ranked 7,187 out of 12,650 in parenting   4 months ago

I don't believe anyone, anywhere, should have more children than they can afford to feed, clothe, and keep a roof over their heads. Do the children need everything they want? Of course not. But if parents can't provide the basics for the children they already have, they most certainly have no business having additional kids.


way2earn (5)   ranked 11,784 out of 12,650 in parenting  4 months ago

You are right.. but i guess the main problem is economically backwardness.. The parents might be thinking that the more the the kids we have the more the money earners in the family will be... possible right... In the current days, definitly the day the economic backwardness goes away, no one might think of having more and more chilkdren


myLot reputation of 93/100. ldybgsgma99 (1241)   ranked 2,887 out of 12,650 in parenting  4 months ago

What about people that have the means to afford the children they have and then something drastic happens. do you think they intended to wind up not being able to have those children? Should they be punished because they can no longer afford them? I think each individual case needs to be examined before anything is done. People that have child after child without thought for the consequences should be banned from having any more children. But each case had different circumstances and we should not roll them all into one scenario.

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