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I was responding to another post that caused me to ask myself this question and now to ask your opinion. The poster of the discussion mentioned that people often committ crimes in order of survival. The example was that a person may rob somebody in order that they can eat. And this may be the case in some third world countries. I am of the opinion that most of the crimes committed in the US are for recreational purposes or worse than that just because! My example would be a person robbing a bank. If it were survival, and a crime has to be committed why not steal food from the grocery store? Or why become a serial bank robber when the first robbery probally yielded enough money to feed a village for a lifetime. Or lets say a car thief, if you need to steal a car (can't think of a good reason to have to do so) to take your wife to the hospital, call the police and tell them that you had to get to the ER, car is outside. Why steal a car to joy ride with your friends! I think that most crimes are committed purely for recreational purposes, by lazy a$$ people that feel like they have the right to take from you, the government, business owners etc, just because they feel like it. What's your opinion?
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1. alpha7 (803) | 2 months ago |  Firstly,i want to correct this;a lazy person cannot be a criminal!For someone to be a criminal,he must be very sharp,hard working and very fast, i think,so if you think that a lazy person can become a criminal,forget it,my dear! With my little experience in security,i can rightly tell you that those people that rob or steal cars do it for plesure most of the time,they want to show that they are hard and that's why most of this money are given away or spent lavishly.When you talk of grocery shop stealing,well this majorly does not have anything to do with your financial status, i have seen so many times rich people coming into big stores to steal,this is because they don't want to pay,not that they don't have the money.Well, may the Lord protect us all!
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relundad (795) | 2 months ago | I think that you misinterpreted my definitin of lazy. I mean lazy in the respect that they have consciously chose to not work as a means of supporting themselves. Lazy in the fact that they don't get up to work the traditional hours that we do to support ourselves and family. As in the example that you gave of rich people stealing, then that would definitely indicative of it being purely as recreational as they don't have a need.
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relundad (795) | 2 months ago | Oh yeah brilliant idea...someone has decided that they are going to "take" whatever a company or person has many times at gunpoint and you want me to go and talk to them...yeah right... One of us is missing the point...maybe me...I'll exit at this point...Thanks for your input even though I have no idea what you are talking about! Maybe someone else does or will!
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| 2. blogging2 (62) | 2 months ago | I have gotten to where i feel that the welfare system is just another form of stealing. I pay taxes that takes money away from my family to where we can't afford insurance, or name brand stuff, but the welfare community continues to take that money and buy name brand stuff, has GREAT health insurance, gets aid on their rent, and have money to get their hair, nails, etc done. If something doesn't change in our society soon I do see crime rising for survival, and when that happens the "just because" crimes will go up as well. It won't be pretty and very much scares me with a 2 year old...
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relundad (795) | 2 months ago | I agree with you on the welfare issue. A lot of the crimes are done because we have become a society of instant gratification and greed. Nobody wants to work for what they want, they want it right now and if that means taking yours then so be it....
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3. Balozi (166) | 2 months ago | Well, I wouldn't say it is right to steal or rob to meet a need. It is more than recreation. Imagine in the developing countries where a minister who earns an av. $15000, no small money huh! Same person sells a public property for $500 million but pockets $300 million. This robbery without violence, would you still call it a recreation? I think people who steal or rob have a problem.
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relundad (795) | 2 months ago | No I don't think its right either. I'm not sure that I get your point about the salary of a minister, are you saying that you consider that robbing or stealing? Neither do I get what is wrong with a person sellin something that they own for a profit. It is a legitimate practice that the two people are in agreement with the sales price. Obviously you would have a problem if you feel like you can take something that belongs to another person
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4. moonlitmagikchild (2300) | 2 months ago | yeah now that i think of it i would have to agree that a lot of our crime in usa have really no value and no real good reason (such as im gonna starve with my children for this loaf of bread type thing) which makes all of it that much scarier
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relundad (795) | 2 months ago | Oh, it makes you so mad! Recently my sister that is serving a tour in Iraq was home on RNR. We stopped at the drive thru ATM and was robbed at gunpoint for the 40 dollars that she was withdrawing. She was livid and so was I. She made the comment that she had spent a year at war and survived that, comes home and to be held at gunpoint for 40 dollars was just a slap in her face. She said is this the type of freedom that we put our lives at risk for everyday?
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Hatley (11328) | 1 month ago | thanks so much for best response
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6. Opal26 (1453) | 2 months ago | I totally agree with you! Most crimes committed are not for the purpose of anything but to wreck havoc! You made an excellent point. If someone is hungry, they would rob a grocery store. Unfortunatly, most serious crimes are committed for recreational purposes like you said stealing cars, getting money for drugs, stealing electronics, robbing banks and convenience stores. The worst part of this is that innocent people get hurt of killed. It is true that there are people that would prefer to commit a crime rather then go out and get a job. There are a lot of sick lazy people in this world who feel that they are owed something and don't need to work like the rest of us. How sad is that!
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relundad (795) | 2 months ago | Hi thanks for responding. For me it makes me mad rather than sad, because I know that they have made a conscious planned decision to act in that manner, and many times with absolutely no regard for life. As they will without regard take someones life as well as whatever material items they are after.
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7. laglen (1418) | 2 months ago | I agree with you. There are possibly a very small percentage that actually do it for survival. I think people like to jump on that excuse, but having to steal a $200 pair of tennis shoes for survival, yeah I'm not buyin it!
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relundad (795) | 2 months ago | I'm not buying that bull either! For some reason I guess they think they are above working for what they want and need.
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8. muscles4me (1165) | 2 months ago | well I would say alittle of both. For instance where I work we have alot of shoplifting but we have no security cameras for proof and since there is usually only one person in the store we can not very well run out after them and even if we could why should I risk my life doing that for minimum wage when they have a $75 appliance stuck down their saggy pants. I say that is recreation and probably alittle anger. A long time ago when we had National Foods here I had a friend that worked at security. There was a senior lady who came in every few days and would buy a pace, apple or bananna AND also she would picke up a few cans of cat food. She would pay for the fruit and one of the cans of cat food. They all knew it and ignored it. The employess had a fund for her they would put their extra change in. The lady had no cats......she ate the cat food as it was cheaper than people food. That is survival. I heard one of the checkers say they thought she was homeless because they saw her sitting on a bench at a bus stop around midnight long after buses ran a long time ago.
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relundad (795) | 2 months ago | Wow interesting story!
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9. dragonfly242 (857) | 2 months ago | Hi relundad! In my opinion, greed is the basic reason that most crimes are committed. I feel it's greed that motivates most people. As for some people being lazy, that can also be true, i think some people have the ability to work but choose not to. I for one would rather ask for help or even beg before i steal, in my opinion there's no shame in asking for help, but i'd rather die than be labled a theif. What angers me is when people work hard and sacrifice for the things they want, and someone comes along and think it's their right to take what another has. There are so many forms of stealing, and most if not all, cannot be justified.
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AnnaB7 (300) | 1 month ago | I agree with you.
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relundad (795) | 2 months ago | I totally agree with you, obviously I could talk for days about all the different crimes but I mentioned that one in particular as the discussion that I spun off of was talking about people stealing to survive.
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