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myLot reputation of 87/100. relundad (795)   ranked 1,568 out of 25,932 in people2 months ago

I was responding to another post that caused me to ask myself this question and now to ask your opinion.

The poster of the discussion mentioned that people often committ crimes in order of survival. The example was that a person may rob somebody in order that they can eat. And this may be the case in some third world countries.

I am of the opinion that most of the crimes committed in the US are for recreational purposes or worse than that just because! My example would be a person robbing a bank. If it were survival, and a crime has to be committed why not steal food from the grocery store? Or why become a serial bank robber when the first robbery probally yielded enough money to feed a village for a lifetime. Or lets say a car thief, if you need to steal a car (can't think of a good reason to have to do so) to take your wife to the hospital, call the police and tell them that you had to get to the ER, car is outside. Why steal a car to joy ride with your friends!

I think that most crimes are committed purely for recreational purposes, by lazy a$$ people that feel like they have the right to take from you, the government, business owners etc, just because they feel like it. What's your opinion?

 
 
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1. myLot reputation of 85/100. alpha7 (803)   ranked 2,445 out of 25,932 in people   2 months ago

angryFirstly,i want to correct this;a lazy person cannot be a criminal!For someone to be a criminal,he must be very sharp,hard working and very fast, i think,so if you think that a lazy person can become a criminal,forget it,my dear!
With my little experience in security,i can rightly tell you that those people that rob or steal cars do it for plesure most of the time,they want to show that they are hard and that's why most of this money are given away or spent lavishly.When you talk of grocery shop stealing,well this majorly does not have anything to do with your financial status, i have seen so many times rich people coming into big stores to steal,this is because they don't want to pay,not that they don't have the money.Well, may the Lord protect us all!


myLot reputation of 87/100. relundad (795)   ranked 1,568 out of 25,932 in people  2 months ago

I think that you misinterpreted my definitin of lazy. I mean lazy in the respect that they have consciously chose to not work as a means of supporting themselves. Lazy in the fact that they don't get up to work the traditional hours that we do to support ourselves and family.

As in the example that you gave of rich people stealing, then that would definitely indicative of it being purely as recreational as they don't have a need.


myLot reputation of 85/100. alpha7 (803)   ranked 2,445 out of 25,932 in people  2 months ago

angryAll these problems are in the head and nothing more,ofcourse for people who believe in the spiritual,why not!
Someone that you have clasify to be lazy,why not approach him to know his problems,you might be extremely wrong in taking such decisions or conclusions. A person who worked for 250hrs in a month and the patron paid 70 hrs without explanation and the Government supporting such a patron,if he decides that he's no more working with the Company or if he losses intrest in the Government,will you say he's lazy?


myLot reputation of 87/100. relundad (795)   ranked 1,568 out of 25,932 in people  2 months ago

Oh yeah brilliant idea...someone has decided that they are going to "take" whatever a company or person has many times at gunpoint and you want me to go and talk to them...yeah right...

One of us is missing the point...maybe me...I'll exit at this point...Thanks for your input even though I have no idea what you are talking about! Maybe someone else does or will!


myLot reputation of 85/100. alpha7 (803)   ranked 2,445 out of 25,932 in people  2 months ago

surrenderYou are very appreciated,thanks and have a nice day,i repeat,may the Lord keep us all.

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2. blogging2 (62)   ranked 2,960 out of 25,932 in people   2 months ago

I have gotten to where i feel that the welfare system is just another form of stealing. I pay taxes that takes money away from my family to where we can't afford insurance, or name brand stuff, but the welfare community continues to take that money and buy name brand stuff, has GREAT health insurance, gets aid on their rent, and have money to get their hair, nails, etc done.

If something doesn't change in our society soon I do see crime rising for survival, and when that happens the "just because" crimes will go up as well. It won't be pretty and very much scares me with a 2 year old...


myLot reputation of 87/100. relundad (795)   ranked 1,568 out of 25,932 in people  2 months ago

I agree with you on the welfare issue.

A lot of the crimes are done because we have become a society of instant gratification and greed. Nobody wants to work for what they want, they want it right now and if that means taking yours then so be it....


blogging2 (62)   ranked 2,960 out of 25,932 in people  2 months ago

agreed!

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3. myLot reputation of 52/100. Balozi (166)   ranked 12,827 out of 25,932 in people   2 months ago

Well, I wouldn't say it is right to steal or rob to meet a need. It is more than recreation. Imagine in the developing countries where a minister who earns an av. $15000, no small money huh! Same person sells a public property for $500 million but pockets $300 million. This robbery without violence, would you still call it a recreation? I think people who steal or rob have a problem.


myLot reputation of 87/100. relundad (795)   ranked 1,568 out of 25,932 in people  2 months ago

No I don't think its right either. I'm not sure that I get your point about the salary of a minister, are you saying that you consider that robbing or stealing? Neither do I get what is wrong with a person sellin something that they own for a profit. It is a legitimate practice that the two people are in agreement with the sales price. Obviously you would have a problem if you feel like you can take something that belongs to another person

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4. myLot reputation of 95/100. moonlitmagikchild (2300)   ranked 277 out of 25,932 in people   2 months ago

yeah now that i think of it i would have to agree that a lot of our crime in usa have really no value and no real good reason (such as im gonna starve with my children for this loaf of bread type thing) which makes all of it that much scarier

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5. myLot reputation of 80/100. Hatley (11328)   ranked 1,582 out of 25,932 in people   2 months ago

relundad hi great discussion. I think most crimes like robbing
banks and stealing cars is all about just plain stupid greed, they never get enough and dont want to work for wages like a decent person would do, so they committ crimes, I dont think here in the US that criminals do it for survival as there are so many ways to get help, they do it for greed and I guess for recreation in a way. I think that most people who are in trouble and havent a way to get his wife to the hospital will search for
nonviolent ways perhaps calling a neighbor or a friend,in fact in a lot of hospitals, I know this as I had to use it, the hospital has a special van it will send out to pickup a patient who needs to go to that hospital and it costs nothing at all.So stealing a car sure isnt for something like getting a wife to the hospital but just because the crook can and he wants to brag to his criminal buddies. thats my opinion anyway for what its worth. i hate
these greedy crooks. One night I went to my ready teller to deposit acheck and while Icame up to one not in use three men got out of a black car with no license and started towards me, I had walked there but now I knew these guys were up to no good so I ran next door to burger king and asked the guy at the counter to call the police and tell them three men were waiting to hold up someone at the atm machines at the bank and theysent a car unmarked and caught these guys just as they were robbing an old lady at the atm machine. I was so glad to see the police as those guys had scared me something awful.


myLot reputation of 87/100. relundad (795)   ranked 1,568 out of 25,932 in people  2 months ago

Oh, it makes you so mad!

Recently my sister that is serving a tour in Iraq was home on RNR. We stopped at the drive thru ATM and was robbed at gunpoint for the 40 dollars that she was withdrawing. She was livid and so was I. She made the comment that she had spent a year at war and survived that, comes home and to be held at gunpoint for 40 dollars was just a slap in her face. She said is this the type of freedom that we put our lives at risk for everyday?


myLot reputation of 80/100. Hatley (11328)   ranked 1,582 out of 25,932 in people  1 month ago

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6. myLot reputation of 98/100. Opal26 (1453)   ranked 3,464 out of 25,932 in people   2 months ago

I totally agree with you! Most crimes committed are not
for the purpose of anything but to wreck havoc! You made
an excellent point. If someone is hungry, they would rob
a grocery store. Unfortunatly, most serious crimes are
committed for recreational purposes like you said stealing
cars, getting money for drugs, stealing electronics, robbing
banks and convenience stores. The worst part of this is that
innocent people get hurt of killed. It is true that there are
people that would prefer to commit a crime rather then go
out and get a job. There are a lot of sick lazy people in this
world who feel that they are owed something and don't need to
work like the rest of us. How sad is that!


myLot reputation of 87/100. relundad (795)   ranked 1,568 out of 25,932 in people  2 months ago

Hi thanks for responding. For me it makes me mad rather than sad, because I know that they have made a conscious planned decision to act in that manner, and many times with absolutely no regard for life. As they will without regard take someones life as well as whatever material items they are after.

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7. myLot reputation of 93/100. laglen (1418)   ranked 1,743 out of 25,932 in people   2 months ago

I agree with you. There are possibly a very small percentage that actually do it for survival. I think people like to jump on that excuse, but having to steal a $200 pair of tennis shoes for survival, yeah I'm not buyin it!


myLot reputation of 87/100. relundad (795)   ranked 1,568 out of 25,932 in people  2 months ago

I'm not buying that bull either! For some reason I guess they think they are above working for what they want and need.

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8. myLot reputation of 98/100. muscles4me (1165)   ranked 694 out of 25,932 in people   2 months ago

well I would say alittle of both. For instance where I work we have alot of shoplifting but we have no security cameras for proof and since there is usually only one person in the store we can not very well run out after them and even if we could why should I risk my life doing that for minimum wage when they have a $75 appliance stuck down their saggy pants. I say that is recreation and probably alittle anger. A long time ago when we had National Foods here I had a friend that worked at security. There was a senior lady who came in every few days and would buy a pace, apple or bananna AND also she would picke up a few cans of cat food. She would pay for the fruit and one of the cans of cat food. They all knew it and ignored it. The employess had a fund for her they would put their extra change in. The lady had no cats......she ate the cat food as it was cheaper than people food. That is survival. I heard one of the checkers say they thought she was homeless because they saw her sitting on a bench at a bus stop around midnight long after buses ran a long time ago.


myLot reputation of 87/100. relundad (795)   ranked 1,568 out of 25,932 in people  2 months ago

Wow interesting story!

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9. myLot reputation of 96/100. dragonfly242 (857)   ranked 3,738 out of 25,932 in people   2 months ago

Hi relundad!
In my opinion, greed is the basic reason that most crimes are committed.
I feel it's greed that motivates most people.
As for some people being lazy, that can also be true, i think some people have the ability to work but choose not to.
I for one would rather ask for help or even beg before i steal, in my opinion there's no shame in asking for help, but i'd rather die than be labled a theif.
What angers me is when people work hard and sacrifice for the things they want, and someone comes along and think it's their right to take what another has.
There are so many forms of stealing, and most if not all, cannot be justified.


myLot reputation of 97/100. AnnaB7 (300)   ranked 932 out of 25,932 in people  1 month ago

I agree with you.

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10. myLot reputation of 90/100. cbreeze (473)   ranked 4,725 out of 25,932 in people   2 months ago

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myLot reputation of 87/100. relundad (795)   ranked 1,568 out of 25,932 in people  2 months ago

I totally agree with you, obviously I could talk for days about all the different crimes but I mentioned that one in particular as the discussion that I spun off of was talking about people stealing to survive.

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