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I think creationism and evolution can happily coexist. email this discussion to a friend?

myLot reputation of 89/100. bonbon664 (2183)   ranked 901 out of 27,901 in people4 months ago

I don't understand why these two ideas of life can't coexist. I believe in God, but, I don't believe he created the earth and everything on it in 7 literal days of 24 hours each. I believe "he" created evolution. I think he created the first single cell organisms, and things evolved from there. Why can't that be the way things happened? Why can't the 7 days described in the bible be a thousand years each? Doesn't that make more sense than God waving his hand and creating everything we know in 7 days? Works for me, what do you think?

 
 
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1. myLot reputation of 97/100. sisterjinx (892)   ranked 1,443 out of 27,901 in people   4 months ago

Bravo Bonbon! I so very much agree with this. I can't even add anything to it to make it better. You said it so well.

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2. myLot reputation of 95/100. stvasile (4711)   ranked 2,040 out of 27,901 in people   4 months ago

I salute you as a person that has something inside the skull! w00t
Most people can't even conceive that if the Bible says "7 days", that doesn't mean it's talking about 24 hour days. It's right there in the Bible! will be the only answer you will get, although, it's a fact that theologists agree those days from the Genesis must not e taken literally. glare
On the other hand, there are some evolutionists that know at some point there is no explanation to how things came to be, but refuse to accept an intervention from a superior being. glare
To conclude, I also thing a combination of the two ideas is the most acceptable theory to explain the emerging of life (until further proof, at least).


myLot reputation of 89/100. bonbon664 (2183)   ranked 901 out of 27,901 in people  4 months ago

I'm waiting for responses to the contrary though, because I think a lot of people think it's one or the other.


myLot reputation of 77/100. soooobored (586)   ranked 2,222 out of 27,901 in people  4 months ago

I'm with you, I would like to see a creationist outline the argument in a way I can understand, I've never really "gotten it".

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3. myLot reputation of 79/100. guybrush (2095)   ranked 4,558 out of 27,901 in people   4 months ago

I think everyone should be tolerant of the views of others. I have friends of many different religions and beliefs, and we all respect eachother and don't try to force our personal views. I have pagan views, and watch the cycles of the moon, sun, planets and seasons. While we are on this earth we will never know for sure how things began - but we can watch the miracles of nature every day.

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4. myLot reputation of 99/100. anawar (1084)   ranked 1,260 out of 27,901 in people   4 months ago

bonbon, I'm always wondering why God is spoken of as a he, even if the word is put into quotes? Sometimes I think g*d was created in the image of man.

It's possible some people need to believe in a g*d and others manage without a diety. There is an area in a human's brain that indicates mankind is always searching for a higher spiritual level, or a g*d.

Consider this, no one can decide there is no g*d without considering there might be a g*d.

If people take comfort from the Bible, then they are blessed. People who search for answers elsewhere are more challenged and study different mystical religions or beliefs, exploring other pathways. Two people who believe in two different things might one day meet on the same path. After all, aren't we all looking for the same thing?

I don't think there can be an agreement between creation and evolution. It's not possible to agree using words, because so many emotions are attached to the words.

The union is within and I don't know what that means. Please forgive me if I don't keep up with this discussion. I'll try to, but the outside world is demanding my attention.
Blessed be.


myLot reputation of 89/100. bonbon664 (2183)   ranked 901 out of 27,901 in people  4 months ago

I don't think the two ideas have to be mutually exclusive. I think the two paths already meld somewhere.

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5. myLot reputation of 89/100. Feona1962 (3085)   ranked 1,164 out of 27,901 in people   4 months ago

The 7 days in which he spent creating, weren't necessarily 7 days in a row....It could have been 1 day and then 100 years later another day and so on...We think of 7 days as Sunday through Saturday...but I don't believe he created it all in 7 days in a row....

We all interpret things differently....We weren't around when he was creating so we don't really know what a day actually consist of....we will never know....

I totally agree with you...

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6. myLot reputation of 86/100. lalchetian (242)   ranked 5,609 out of 27,901 in people   4 months ago

why don't you think that every thing was created by itself and they have a property of evolving and if nothing can be created by itself then who created god??


myLot reputation of 89/100. bonbon664 (2183)   ranked 901 out of 27,901 in people  4 months ago

I have no idea....I always thought God just "was".

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7. myLot reputation of 96/100. meggan79 (455)   ranked 1,110 out of 27,901 in people   4 months ago

I am in the same catagorey with you. I do believe in god, but I also believe in evolution. I believe over time we evolve to fit our surroundings. I think people are so worried about being right that they miss out on other possibilities. I don't think you have to give up your faith to take on new ideas.

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8. myLot reputation of 77/100. soooobored (586)   ranked 2,222 out of 27,901 in people   4 months ago

That's always been the position I've held, and I'm definitely an evolutionist! I love religion, I just don't love religion in spite of physical evidence.

I really hope someone here posts a contrary view, I'm very curious. I've never met a creationist, and I would really like to hear what s/he has to say!

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9. myLot reputation of 84/100. kenzie45230 (2326)   ranked 743 out of 27,901 in people   4 months ago

I believe that God created the earth and moon and stars. I'm not sure if it matters if it took Him 7 days or 7 years to do that, although the Bible does tell us that on the 7th day He rested...and that's certainly an indication that we all need to have a day of rest too. Plus...it's been proven that carbon dating is no indication of how old anything is. Not when they can duplicate things in labs that look like they're thousands of years old.

So far there is no proof - in the fossils - that there was any evolution that created man. That's what bothers most people I know who are Christians. Having no proof today doesn't mean it doesn't exist. But so far every time science thought they found the missing link - the jump from beast to man - it has been proven to be something else.


myLot reputation of 77/100. soooobored (586)   ranked 2,222 out of 27,901 in people  4 months ago

Kenzie,

I am curious about the "missing link"? I am providing a link to a popular phylogeny, if you are interested in looking it over:

http://creation.wiki.org/Paleoanthropology

It's blue, almost halfway down the page. There are certainly other phylogenies, and other constructions of the relationships between fossils, but they aren't necessarily worth discussing here.

What I don't understand is the position that there is no fossil proof evolution created man. I don't ask to attack your views, I'm asking because I'm not really sure what the position is: Is the creationist belief that these are all versions of one species? Or is it that these creatures were all designed independently of one another?

Thanks!

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10. terribleturtle (64)   ranked 7,894 out of 27,901 in people   4 months ago

Because God created all the animails and Adam was to name then.

I believe that your intentions are good trying to bring people together, but the two theories condratdict each other. If God created everything then we didn't come form an evolutionary soup.
If we came from an evolutionary soup then there is no God.

Sorry to pee in your Wheaties, but the two cannot both be possible.

But thats just my opinion and you can discard it if you want to.
There is no proof of either, we must rely on what our heart tells us.
If we think one over the other, we have made a decision, if we believe in both we are unsure of what to think.
Faith plays a large part on each side. Which side are you on?

There will be a test at the end if I'm right. If you are right, I have lived a life with high standards and dared to hope for a higher power.

Where did this organism come from bonbon?
Did it come form here or did it land from another planet?
I think you should consider Scientology, their views reflect some of your own.

TT


myLot reputation of 77/100. soooobored (586)   ranked 2,222 out of 27,901 in people  4 months ago

I don't want to speak for BonBon, but I am curious to know more about your position. I've always held the idea that God set the ingredients for life, and let us have at it! And I don't think that idea is any stranger than the Adam and Eve.

Given the fossil record, and Darwin's finches, and all the scientific evidence of natural selection and evolution, what is the response to that?

I am not asking to be argumentative (I'm afraid you'll have to take my word on that), but like I said in my post, I've never met a Creationist, and I'm very curious about what kind of explanation exists from that evidence, besides the one I subscribe to?

And again, I am NOT saying any of this in the spirit of attacking your views, this is purely academic!


terribleturtle (64)   ranked 7,894 out of 27,901 in people  4 months ago

Both theories has sreious flaws in them, There is no absolute proof for either arguement.

Bottom line is you think that creationism is the way OR evolotion is the way. There can't be both.
Something can be said the animals and humans have changed or altered since creation, but the faith is either creation or evolotion.

There can't be both.


myLot reputation of 77/100. soooobored (586)   ranked 2,222 out of 27,901 in people  4 months ago

Wow, I figured I'd be the only late-nighter in here! LOL

Thanks for the reply! I do subscribe to God and the role s/he plays in creation (insofar as I described above), but I agree that you cannot believe both in Creationism (ie, Adam and Eve) and Evolution. But religion and evolution need not exclude each other!


terribleturtle (64)   ranked 7,894 out of 27,901 in people  4 months ago

Werll said soooobored.
Excellent take on this.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and most wars break out when these beliefs collide. I'm happy to say that we can come to a middle ground here and avoid the conflict altogether.
Most nuts on this earth are unable to.
Cheers to you.

TT


myLot reputation of 89/100. bonbon664 (2183)   ranked 901 out of 27,901 in people  4 months ago

Maybe God didn't create everything, maybe he created the FIRST thing, and everything evolved from that, that's kind of what I think happened.

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