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myLot reputation of 92/100. dawnald (2957)   ranked 8 out of 597 in animal lover3 months ago

Now I admit that I have never been hunting. I come from a non-hunting family. I just don't see the point of hunting for anything other than:

1) food - only non-endangered animals, please
2) self defense - rabid wolf, man-eating tiger
3) population control - deer population out of control, for example

As for sport, how can you call it sporting to shoot an animal with a gun? And as for trophy hunting, totally immoral in my book. Kill an animal just to have some antlers hanging on your wall or some stuffed little statue? Sick, senseless macho thing.

Sorry, just my opinion.

 
 
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1. myLot reputation of 98/100. sudalunts (2668)   ranked 460 out of 597 in animal lover   3 months ago

I embrace your opinion. I do not like the idea of hunting as well. I do not approve of the population control hunting, because we are pushing these animals out of their natural environments to build hi rises and office buildings, so where do they then have to go.
I live in New Jersey, and every year there is a bear hunt. Leave these animals alone. They are roaming in residential areas now, because we as humans have taken their space and what used to be their territory is now a housing complex.
Little bear cubs are becoming orphans because we are killing their mothers.
I hate it, Sorry, just my opinion.


myLot reputation of 92/100. dawnald (2957)   ranked 8 out of 597 in animal lover  3 months ago

I hate it too.
Population control is a tough one though. If the deer or rabbit or whatever population gets out of control, is it better to let them starve to death or to shoot them for the meat. But I agree in most cases people caused the situation to begin with by killing off all the predators, taking away the habitat, etc.


myLot reputation of 97/100. palonghorn (3008)   ranked 336 out of 597 in animal lover  3 months ago

Without that bear hunt, how many bears do you think would be roaming the neighborhoods? Do you honestly think that the bears would practice bear birth control? It's the same with deer, if you do not allow hunting, the deer population will continue to grow, they will consume more of their natural foods than can be replaced. Therefore, you will have sickly animals, hungry animals, and dead or dying animals in your neighborhood.


myLot reputation of 92/100. dawnald (2957)   ranked 8 out of 597 in animal lover  3 months ago

I've heard of deer populations getting out of control, but bears? I doubt it. I read 20 years ago that there were more people born every month than there were bears in the entire world. I doubt the bears are overrunning our towns except in very rare cases.

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2. myLot reputation of 90/100. mimico (2525)   ranked 291 out of 597 in animal lover   3 months ago

Hello, I have nothing against hunting for antlers but it may be because I haven't participated in an actual hunt. I'm sure once I'm there I'll be royally pissed with the guy who dared to kill a deer. It's one of the worst "sports" though. I like animals so it naturally enrages me to see dolphins and elephants being violently shot to death. Ugh. Some people just have a warped sense of what life is all about.


myLot reputation of 92/100. dawnald (2957)   ranked 8 out of 597 in animal lover  3 months ago

Some people are raised to enjoy that sort of thing unfortunately.

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3. jewel127 (46)   ranked 462 out of 597 in animal lover   3 months ago

I agree COMPLETELY with all of these comments. I think hunting is a disgusting "sport"--if you could call it that--that is utterly inhumane and senseless. You kill a large moose so you can get a pat on your back from your buddies and take pictures with the poor moose's limp carcass and antlers. BUT I also think it is just as senseless to wear fur jackets, sweaters, hats and the like. Foxes, ferrets, chinchillas and rabbits are wild animals and don't deserve to be skinned alive or electrocuted so that YOU can look STUPID wearing those expensive clothes. And by the way, have you actually SEEN a chinchilla coat? Anyone that wears one of those just looks ridiculous. Looking like a really hair polar bear. That isn't fashion.
But I could go on and on and on. I'll save it for another post:)


myLot reputation of 92/100. dawnald (2957)   ranked 8 out of 597 in animal lover  3 months ago

Yep agreed, the only excuse for wearing fur, far as I'm concerned is if you're in some isolated indigenous culture where you need the fur to keep from freezing or you'll die. And how many cultures are that isolated in this day and age anyway?

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4. myLot reputation of 74/100. Scotlandthebrave (1290)   ranked 419 out of 597 in animal lover   3 months ago

I agree.
We share the same opinion on this matter
See,Ive been trying to tell you
We have so much in common we would be great together,lol


myLot reputation of 92/100. dawnald (2957)   ranked 8 out of 597 in animal lover  3 months ago

You might have a point.:-)


myLot reputation of 74/100. Scotlandthebrave (1290)   ranked 419 out of 597 in animal lover  3 months ago

I checked,its not pointed as such!!!
Ring a bell!!!
The End,lol


myLot reputation of 92/100. dawnald (2957)   ranked 8 out of 597 in animal lover  3 months ago

Your head, or?

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5. myLot reputation of 96/100. Kashigurl (994)   ranked 464 out of 597 in animal lover   3 months ago

I couldn't have said it better Dawnald! It's just how I feel...and strongly! I can't see how it can be called "sporting" to take out a deer with a high powered rifle. Maybe a bow and arrow if it's being used for food and the heard need to be thinned down....maybe. For trophies??? NO way. I totally agree that it's a "macho: thing...but how macho is it really? They aren't out there doing hand to hoof combat like a real man, they are hiding in the blinds and taking them out from a safe distance.


myLot reputation of 92/100. dawnald (2957)   ranked 8 out of 597 in animal lover  3 months ago

Yep how 'sporting' is it to just shoot something down from a distance?

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6. myLot reputation of 54/100. drzeuss (118)   ranked 455 out of 597 in animal lover   3 months ago

The way i see it is that the only people that actually call it a "sport" are those citified rich folks that go to a hunting lease with three hundred deer/wildhog/turkey/whatevergame in a five acre fenced in area. Shoot, you can throw a rock and hit five deer at one of those places. Yeah, they pay their money kill a deer get some antlers and maybe keep the backstrap, but the rest of the meat goes to who knows.

Personally, i can't stand that type of hunting. It is not hunting.

i was raised, just as everyone else i know, that when hunting season came 'round you go out try to bag your limit (which is a rare occasion). Keep the meat. And.Eat.The.Meat.;)

And if the "game" you fell was an exceptionally large deer then we have a taxidermist work on it and for a display. For in real hunting is not a very easy thing to do even with the offending gun in hand. It takes a considerable amount of patience and a fair bit of wilderness knowledge.

Although i know it exists, no one i know, or have ever met, will kill game just for the sake of killing game.

Moral of the story: Trophy hunting aint hunting, it's slaughter.

Second Moral of the story: For some us country folk, hunting is a way of survival.

Take care.


myLot reputation of 92/100. dawnald (2957)   ranked 8 out of 597 in animal lover  3 months ago

I have no problem with hunting animals that aren't endangered for food. Especially if it's a matter of survival.

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7. myLot reputation of 97/100. blackmantra_x (2270)   ranked 148 out of 597 in animal lover   3 months ago

Good day... I'm a hunter in my own rights. I believe hunting is for one's survival. It shouldn't be use to abuse animals for selfish reasons and luxury purposes.


myLot reputation of 92/100. dawnald (2957)   ranked 8 out of 597 in animal lover  3 months ago

agreed

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8. myLot reputation of 97/100. travibabiesgirl (990)   ranked 452 out of 597 in animal lover   3 months ago

My family and I do hunt. We always eat what we kill and that is really the way it should be. Oh we have our troohy bucks hanging on the wall but those are just the hide and a plastic form. The food part of them did not go to waste. Most of the time the mount you see on the wall or a full body mount (at least where I am from)the meat was used for food.


myLot reputation of 92/100. dawnald (2957)   ranked 8 out of 597 in animal lover  3 months ago

No problem with that either. It's when they are killed for the trophy and the meat is left to rot and especially endangered species where it's absolutely wrong.

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9. myLot reputation of 77/100. goldeneagle (1696)   ranked 162 out of 597 in animal lover   3 months ago

I am a hunter, and let me say that I TOTALLY AGREE with you. I actually posted a discussion myself about this very topic myself a little while ago, and not too many people responded. I haven't been hunting in a few years now due to the schedule I was keeping, but the season is fast approaching, and I hope to get to hunt this year.

I hunt for food. Once I get my freezer full, I usually don't hunt anymore unless I know people such as friends or family that want/need the meat. I prefer to hunt deer. I love the meat, and you get more meat from the kill than you do when shooting say a rabbit or squirrel. It is usually a little more challenging to kill the deer, and you certainly have to work harder to get the animal loaded and then cleaned and ready for the freezer, but the amount of meat you usually get makes it worth the added effort for me, especially since it is probably my favorite wild game to eat. I do enjoy hunting squirrel and rabbits, and will likely hunt them this year as well if I get to go, but I will definitely try to get a few deer.

Trophy hunting (and fishing too for that matter) is not something I agree with. If you are going to eat the kill, that is one thing, but don't kill the animal and leave the carcass to rot while all you take is the head or the antlers or whatever. There are people who could benefit from the meat most of the time, but trophy hunters are usually too lazy to do the work it would take to get the meat to the people. It sickens me when I am hunting and I come across a kill where the hunter has taken the head or just the antlers, and left the rest to rot. One of the many things I admire about the Native Americans you read about in the history book was their love of the environment and the animals. They only killed what they needed to survive...something we should all practice.

There are times, as you mentioned, where killing is necessary for other reasons. The rabies and man-eating tiger were good examples. Population control is necessary as well, especially since humans have destroyed so much habitat that some animals call home. Deer and bear are two good examples of this. Population control becomes necessary to ensure the health of the species and to ensure they have enough to eat and things of that nature. Even in cases of population control, though, most of the animals taken are perfectly good for eating, so why not process those animals as you normally would and take the meat to homeless shelters or places where it is needed?

As you can tell, this issue strikes a nerve with me. I have been taught to respect nature and only kill what I intend to eat unless it becomes necessary. This is why I like the organizations like the NRA and Ducks Unlimited. They promote good sportsmanship and ethical hunting practices. For the most part, I think a lot of hunters and fisherman share our views, but as in most other areas of life, there are a select few that give the rest of us a bad name.


myLot reputation of 92/100. dawnald (2957)   ranked 8 out of 597 in animal lover  3 months ago

It's actually great that I'm starting to hear from a few people who actually hunt. Didn't find one thing you had to say that I disagree with.

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10. myLot reputation of 70/100. Jul14nch0 (400)   ranked 459 out of 597 in animal lover   3 months ago

Shooting animals for sport is kinda sad, i have never hunted too and i am against it, since there is no need on doing that.


myLot reputation of 92/100. dawnald (2957)   ranked 8 out of 597 in animal lover  3 months ago

for you and me no, no need, but apparently some people do need to hunt for food, and I'm OK with that as long as they do it legally.

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