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McCain rejects 'audacity of hopelessness' for Iraq email this discussion to a friend?

By TOM RAUM
Associated Press Writer
 
3 months ago

DENVER (AP) - Republican presidential candidate John McCain, ridiculing Barack Obama for "the audacity of hopelessness" in his policies on Iraq, said Friday that the entire Middle East could have plunged into war had U.S. troops been withdrawn as his rival advocated.


Speaking to an audience of Hispanic military veterans, McCain stepped up his criticism of Obama while the Illinois senator continued his headline-grabbing tour of the Middle East and Europe. The Arizona Republican contended that Obama's policies - he opposed sending more troops to Iraq in the "surge" that McCain supported - would have led to defeat there and in Afghanistan.


"We rejected the audacity of hopelessness, and we were right," McCain said, a play on the title of Obama's book "The Audacity of Hope."


McCain laid out a near-apocalyptic chain of events he said could have resulted had Obama managed to stop the troop buildup ordered by President Bush: U.S. forces retreating under fire, the Iraqi army collapsing, civilian casualties increasing dramatically, al-Qaida killing cooperative Sunni sheiks and finding safe havens to train fighters and launch attacks on Americans, and civil war, genocide and a wider conflict.


"Above all, America would have been humiliated and weakened," he said. "Terrorists would have seen our defeat as evidence America lacked the resolve to defeat them. As Iraq descended into chaos, other countries in the Middle East would have come to the aid of their favored factions, and the entire region might have erupted in war."


Noting that the buildup was unpopular with most Americans, McCain said: "Sen. Obama told the American people what he thought you wanted to hear. I told you the truth."


Obama has called for a withdrawal over 16 months. McCain again criticized him for advocating "a politically expedient timetable" and for voting against funding for troops. McCain had raised eyebrows earlier this week by charging that Obama "would rather lose a war in order to win a political campaign."


However, on CNN on Friday, McCain said that 16 months is "a pretty good timetable." "He said it's a pretty good timetable based on conditions on the ground," McCain said of Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki.


"I think it's a pretty good timetable, as we should - or horizons for withdrawal," he added, echoing a phrase President Bush used in recent days. "But they have to be based on conditions on the ground."


McCain has long maintained that conditions on the ground are a key consideration in any withdrawal of American troops. And he has argued that Obama would withdraw troops based on his timetable without regard to conditions in Iraq, although Obama says he would listen to U.S. military commanders about those conditions.


With one exception, Obama has voted for every spending bill for troops at war. In 2007, Bush vetoed a bill that provided funding on condition of troop withdrawals, and Obama joined 13 other senators who opposed the measure that took its place.


McCain's speech in Denver came at the conclusion of a week in which he struggled against Obama's overseas tour de force. Yet amid the awkward moments, McCain managed to campaign busily in key battleground states and to raise millions of dollars at fundraisers.


Polls in many swing states are close, and some are tightening. The Arizona Republican sought to turn this to his advantage in what was clearly a difficult week to be a stay-at-home candidate.


McCain repeatedly emphasized his long military and congressional background, scolded Obama from afar on foreign policy, and kept playfully fueling speculation that he was close to picking a running mate. His address to the group of Hispanic veterans also gave him a chance to court the valued Hispanic vote.


While in Colorado, McCain had a 45-minute meeting with the Dalai Lama, the Tibetan spiritual leader who was in Aspen for a conference. McCain called on China to release prisoners from the recent Tibetan uprising, saying the Beijing Olympic Games in August provide a good opportunity for China to demonstrate that it recognizes human rights.


The Dalai Lama praised McCain for his concern - while emphasizing he wasn't endorsing McCain's presidential bid.


McCain was to spend the weekend in Arizona and make a round of television news shows on Sunday.


Everywhere he went in recent days - in New Hampshire, Maine, Pennsylvania, Ohio and here in Colorado - the Arizona senator drew warm and appreciative crowds. No matter that many, if not most, of those in the audiences were senior citizens. Seniors vote in big numbers.


For the most part, the side-by-side images weren't pretty:


-Obama meeting with leaders in Iraq, McCain on a golf cart in Kennebunkport, Maine, with the first President Bush.


-Obama before a sweeping Mideast landscape, McCain holding a news conference in a supermarket in Bethlehem - Pennsylvania, that is - and narrowly escaping an attack from a tumbling stack of apple sauce jars.


-Obama delivering his trip's keynote speech at Berlin's Victory Column, McCain eating bratwurst and chatting with reporters at a German restaurant in Columbus, Ohio.


McCain responds philosophically when asked about being overshadowed by his rival's overseas trip and outsize attention: "It is what it is."


McCain has inched ahead of Obama in Colorado, come within inches in Minnesota and narrowed the gap in Michigan and Wisconsin, according to Quinnipiac University polls of likely voters in these battleground states. The polls, taken for The Wall Street Journal and washingtonpost.com, showed voters in each state saying energy policy is more important than the war in Iraq.



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tags:  mccain, victory, mccain needs attention, iraq surge, obama
 
1. myLot reputation of 91/100. the_vicar (2677)   3 months ago

At least Obama knows who they are fighting in Iraq. Bush already claimed victory right after the war started. So we can't "lose" the war.


myLot reputation of 43/100. piasabird (826)  3 months ago




If the victory was to take Hussein from power and the fall of Bagdad then it was a victory. The libs always throw the whole victory thing up. They make me want to throw up.

 
2. myLot reputation of 72/100. enzabird (130)   3 months ago

I feel really sorry for John McCain right now. The media isn't playing this fair at all. Unbiased journalism my big left toe. Look to the New York Times the past few weeks. They print Obama's article in their opinion column, but wont print McCain's piece a week or so later. This is ridiculous. And three major news anchors following Obama to Iraq? Yes, it is important to cover monumental events, but they are supposed to be the news! Do it fairly!


myLot reputation of 43/100. piasabird (826)  3 months ago




There's no such thing as fair media anymore. Most of them are liberals now. They seem to have fallen for Obama's hopenossis message.

 
3. myLot reputation of 98/100. Ruthep (3343)   3 months ago

Why is the McCain so upset that no one is paying so much attention to him. Isn't that what happened to the democrats when McCain went to the middle east.
Plus I too am getting sick of hearing about us winning the war. Didn't Bush declare victory ages ago? I wish just one reporter would ask him that.


myLot reputation of 43/100. piasabird (826)  3 months ago

Yeah, I wish they would, too. But it doesn't matter what he'd say. The libs would still drink the kool aid and act like little lemmings following the others.

 
4. myLot reputation of 89/100. missybal (3436)   3 months ago

I think it's a good thing in some ways that McCain is not getting to much attention... no bad news is good news...
Let Obama sink himself.

Really I think that a lot will have to do with who will be riding along with them as VPs. For one if Obama choses Hillary there are those who will love it and those that will hate it. I for one would think that if Hillary is in office with Obama it would be even worse for America. As far as with McCain honestly I think he is smart enough to think who can I really work with... not just who will help me get the votes. You got to think about that. If Obama chose Hillary yes it would help him get her supporters and possibly win the election but in office they would forever be butting heads and it would hurt America as a whole.


myLot reputation of 89/100. missybal (3436)  3 months ago

If Obama would just take the questions of the average American without knowing what it may be I could respect him more. I wish he would agree to do these town meetings and take the American people seriously. I expected more from a presidential canadate.


myLot reputation of 59/100. djbtol (2124)  3 months ago

I think Obama is quite aware that if the average American sees who he is, Obama will lose lots of votes. His only hope of getting elected is all this phony publicity and image stuff.

Remember, his swell to great popularity was mostly based on this notion of change. Now it is obvious to anyone who can stand to look that the stammering junior senator isn't going to change anything for the good, but some things for the worse. I am not so concerned about his flip-flops: he is clearly a ultra left liberal. As a far left liberal, he will push for the same agenda they had back in the sixties. Nothing new there.

djbtol

 
5. myLot reputation of 94/100. snowy22315 (5086)   3 months ago

I think McCain might name his VP chocie this week to steal the thunder from Obama's middle eastern trip. I think romey would be a good choice for him becasue he is an expert on the economy, somehting that Mccain cant possibly be. I think they would make a good team. Not that I would vote for them.


myLot reputation of 89/100. missybal (3436)  3 months ago

Honesty...

Just wondering who do you think would be good for Obama? A lot of talk about Hillary but I really worry about if they could work together in office if elected.

 
6. broorel8 (3)   3 months ago

The surge worked, the media hates that it worked, so they're going to try to paint it as either a failure or unneeded.

 
7. myLot reputation of 59/100. djbtol (2124)   3 months ago

This is absurd. The democrats are so desperate to elevate their boy that they nitpick and the most ridiculous little details.

Even more ridiculous is the concept that the democrats have any basis to talk about the surge, yet alone criticise McCain. Remember, the democrats, through Pelosi, Ried and others led a several year long campaign to secure the defeat of American troops. They wanted it so bad they could taste it or think of anything else. Fortuanely President Bush and our military stood strong and withstood the enemies - both those here and those overseas.

djbtol

 
8. click50 (56)   3 months ago

McCain is as foolish as his counterpart Bush. He believes the propaganda that is being told to him. We don't need to continue in Iraq when we are enemy in Afghanistan is being ignored.


myLot reputation of 43/100. piasabird (826)  3 months ago

You know, at least he's been to both places. He's seen with his own eyes.

 
9. myLot reputation of 95/100. alindahaw (933)   3 months ago

I really think the media is giving Obama a lot of more coverage than McCain. Obama is everywhere in the news these days and there is little of McCain on tv or any other media. I think that the media is not treating McCain fairly. Sure Obama is new and he says and does a lot of unorthodox things that prove to be interesting at times but that is not the point. The media should be fair and unbiased. I just hope things work out for the best at end.

 
10. myLot reputation of 97/100. KrauseHome (8337)   3 months ago

Personally, I agree with the person who stated about McCain being so worried about the War in Iraq, and not about Afganistan. I am not so sure McCain is the one to Vote for, but I am not sure I am a supporter for McCain either. This is one Election yr. that I am not sure if anyone really has the Best interest in mind for any of us. What happened to talking about other issues that should be important as well, like Gas Prices, Health Care, etc. over who does what with feelings about the War.

 
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